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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 573707)

There's no reason I'm obligated to show remorse for such degrading and immature individuals that do nothing but make false statements and take cheap shots.

I'm sorry, you don't believe that's a cheap shot? You have 4,500 posts on this board and you've been told numerous times that you're mistaken about facts that you believe with all of your soul to be true. Just shut your mouth for two seconds and read what those of us who were in the middle of the muck at XJT have to tell you. You've never worked there, and the simple fact that you're trying to dictate how things are/were from the sidelines shows us all what kind of character you're hiding behind that screen name.

Exercise some situational awareness, TD. It'll help you.

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 573707)

I wouldn't say that people have NO PROBLEM with it.

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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 573621)

I just can't wait until we bail the mighty express jet out and open that Houston base 170 rw base, sunshine here I come!

Still trying not to throw up from reading this.

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Originally Posted by forumname (Post 573715)

Still trying not to throw up from reading this.

The reality of the environment we operate in, this gen doesn't care about the future, just the instant gratification of flying the mini 737. That's why I think we missed the boat on these guys as far as education. We might still be able to catch the next gen though.

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Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 573711)

I'm sorry, you don't believe that's a cheap shot? You have 4,500 posts on this board and you've been told numerous times that you're mistaken about facts that you believe with all of your soul to be true. Just shut your mouth for two seconds and read what those of us who were in the middle of the muck at XJT have to tell you. You've never worked there, and the simple fact that you're trying to dictate how things are/were from the sidelines shows us all what kind of character you're hiding behind that screen name.

Exercise some situational awareness, TD. It'll help you.

All I've ever heard from you guys is how well things are going and how things have all gone according to plan. The things I've said weren't speculation they were words taken from CAL, RAH, and XJT. Jim Ream said, and you can listen to him on yahoo finance, that branded was costing more than expected. I might have been told numerous times how wrong I've been but it's been by your same small pile of people. I'm no making this up. You might not want to hear it but it was the truth and never a cheap shot taken at the pilot group. The thing is that when I post I base it off facts. You seem to think that because four of you can say "No things are great" that it's true.

XJT - ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. - Google Finance

What can I say I learned to read a graph.

Your version of situational awareness=http://pbsd.cf.huffingtonpost.com/pics/koolaid.jpg

Thats funny RAH will be giving away a total of 70 million of which 30 has already been delivered but yet their pilots make what per hour?

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Originally Posted by forumname (Post 573715)

Still trying not to throw up from reading this.

He was being sarcastic. Maybe it was more obvious for us that hear the same drama over and over. Everyone knows CAL isn't relaxing on scope.

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Originally Posted by BringDaFunk (Post 573727)

Thats funny RAH will be giving away a total of 70 million of which 30 has already been delivered but yet their pilots make what per hour?

We're working on it:) Things come in increments. There have been a lot of leaps and bounds made here. They're doing good things.... Cash on hand doesn't equal cashflow though. All airlines make investments.

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 573726)

All I've ever heard from you guys is how well things are going and how things have all gone according to plan. The things I've said weren't speculation they were words taken from CAL, RAH, and XJT. Jim Ream said, and you can listen to him on yahoo finance, that branded was costing more than expected. I might have been told numerous times how wrong I've been but it's been by your same small pile of people. I'm no making this up. You might not want to hear it but it was the truth and never a cheap shot taken at the pilot group. The thing is that when I post I base it off facts. You seem to think that because four of you can say "No things are great" that it's true.

XJT - ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. - Google Finance

What can I say I learned to read a graph. One post you guys accuse me of reading too many finacial statements the next you say I'm making it all up. This is starting to turn funny.

You clearly don't know how to read annual reports. Ream is right, Branded was costing more because of fuel, just like any other stand-alone airline.

The financial targets and projections were met, and we still lost money because they were based of fuel at a high of $60 a barrel (also in the annual reports and news releases upon closing Branded). Branded performed well, and could potentially still be around, but LK won this round, and his 1st wish was to get the XR's back, which meant shutting down branded...it's that simple.

So you're wrong, branded performed according to plan. No one planned or was ready for $140 a barrel.

Funny how you didn't even touch the CPA after I showed you that it was for 204 aircraft and we continue to operate 214 to cover the CRJ gap. We're still here, operating outside of BK protection. Anything else?

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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 573733)

So what you're saying is that besides the most important factor everything was peachy? Ok. I got it... Branded worked perfect. I think I'll go buy a ticket and treat myself to something nice.

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 573735)

So what you're saying is that besides the most important factor everything was peachy? Ok. I got it... Branded worked perfect. I think I'll go buy a ticket and treat myself to something nice.

And right there is reason why you will never see the inside of a 73 on CAL colors Mr. C........you don't know when to admit you're wrong, with that attitude I promise you will not be hired by CAL in this life time.

Branded worked according to all projections and targets, which is what you were trying to argue, no one is denying it lost money, just as UA, CAL, DAL, all the other stand-alone airlines did.