ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTLY!!

We've been beating that horse forever. There NEVER should have been as many jobs across so many airlines in the first place and contraction is inevitable.

Yes, but it was posted here a day earlier.

YOUR RIGHT that it's brilliant "but not for us as pilots which I'm sure was your piont". Let's take this trend and extend it to the ultimate end of its journey. If this trend continues then the final outcome will be a monopoly of one airline. I know this may sound extreme to some but can you see any other outcome that will bring it to end? If one of the two actions mentioned in the first post are not acted upon then the company will continue to have us by the balls to no end.

Yes I am. I would most likely be one that loses (my job) for the time being but the pilot industry would have a win and my potential future would be admirable when and if I return. I know I may get bashed for this next statement by some but please don't take it personal it's just my opinion; In addition the general public would also win because they would have more experienced individuals at the controls. Personally, I don't think anyone with 300 hours of flight time should be piloting commercial airline aircraft no matter how good of a pilot one has become up to that point of experience.

One additioal note;
Maybe something as simple as an update to the FAR's would be a solution. An additional FAA certificate required to be eligible for employed by the airlines. A certificate that falls somewhere in between the TT requirements of a commercial and an ATP. I'm sure that the original language was not meant to allow a pilot with 250 hours to sit right seat in a 76 pax jet for an airline but rather to allow a pilot to make money and/or reduce the cost involved to get the time that the airlines required for employment at that time.

I think we're more likely to see proposals that increase regulation, but dont necessarily 're-regulate' the entire industry.

Increased regulation doesn't mean we have to go back to the system that existed prior to '78. It could be as simple as mandating where US airlines get their maintenance done (i.e. not Mexico/Canada). Could also be simple price floors that basically say companies cannot fly for less than a pre-determined ammount, forcing companies to not operate at a loss for the sole purpose of burning the competition out (i.e. aloha/go!).

Really doubt that any politician would go for full-blown re-regulation.

From a pilot's wife perspective ,how many of those carrier's are still in business that jumped in after deregulation?

Maybe that one airline could be our national airline, and owned/run by the government. The country is headed that way anyway...GO SOCIALISM!!!

Around 20 in my 2 second recollection. A lot have merged over the years but it did create a lot of new airlines at the expense of the value of the seat.

And it also created lower pay scale's by half at the expense of the pilot group's.


ALLY

That's exactly what I meant by saying that it lowered the value of the seat.

I think it was a very bad tradeoff.

When Fred started flying he would tell me stories from other Cpt's who would buy a new car on 2-3 month's worth of pay in the 70,s.

Anyone ever come up with what the pay rates schould be in this day and age?
ALLY