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Emb170man 04-21-2009 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 598505)
Too bad J.O. wasn't helping the ramp out nearby.


In order to work ramp he would need a SIDA badge...he is a convicted felon, he can' get a SIDA badge!

TurboFan 04-21-2009 11:58 AM

If you watch the video that is just to the right of the article you will see what was broadcast on the 10 PM newscast that I saw live last night. Even though the original article that was published soon after the accident (around 6 PM local time) correctly states that it was a ground power unit, the 10 PM news reports that the Dash hit a baggage cart. Obviously the news had the correct information but likely just decided not to use GPU since the majority of the general public might not know what that is.

Let this be a lesson that the news media often distorts truth. Albeit minor in this case, they still had the facts and decided to report false information. You really have to take what these clowns say worth a grain of salt.

eaglefly 04-21-2009 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 598661)
In order to work ramp he would need a SIDA badge...he is a convicted felon, he can' get a SIDA badge!

My bad.

I should have considered that as an ethically bankrupt, dishonest criminal he'd be prohibited from that................if only the same applied to running an airline.

Geez.........my bad again. Since he's proved he cannot do that either, I'll have to get back to you on this.

flyhi 04-21-2009 02:55 PM

anybody know what is happening with the crew? i heard they have already been fired... but i can't believe that they would be let go that quickly - even though the accident seems pretty straight forward.

TurboFan 04-21-2009 03:17 PM

I completely understand that as a pilot you must be extra diligent on a congested ramp. That being said, I was told during my stint as a ramp agent that I was wholly responsible for any aircraft that I was marshaling and that I would be responsible, and not the pilots, should anything happen.

How is it that these pilots could be fired when they were simply following the direction of the marshaler? If we as pilots can't trust a marshaler what is their purpose? There is a lot to pay attention to while operating in the extremely congested gate areas, I don't think this is the pilots fault and I definitely don't think they deserve to be fired over it.

paxhauler85 04-21-2009 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by flyhi (Post 598971)
anybody know what is happening with the crew? i heard they have already been fired... but i can't believe that they would be let go that quickly - even though the accident seems pretty straight forward.

I haven't heard either way.

But if the company does fire them, they should rest easy knowing the union will get them their jobs back....

Read: sarcasm.

Read: Union = completely worthless.

Good luck to these guys, they may well need it.

arizonastpilot 04-21-2009 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 599084)
I haven't heard either way.

But if the company does fire them, they should rest easy knowing the union will get them their jobs back....

Read: sarcasm.

Read: Union = completely worthless.

Good luck to these guys, they may well need it.

Thats the truth!

unklenicky 04-21-2009 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by N118NW (Post 598561)
HAHA I know.. a friend of mine said that Mesa needs to stop leaving it's GPU's on the runway :P


Do your homework and get your facts straight..

elcid79 04-21-2009 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by arizonastpilot (Post 599090)
Thats the truth!

not true, don't flame bait, do a little research alpa is actually quite good.

CRJPlt 04-21-2009 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by elcid79 (Post 599132)
not true, don't flame bait, do a little research alpa is actually quite good.


Depends on the MEC


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