You can be on leave, vacation, etc and still be considered to be employed. I suspect the TSA draws the line at furloughs.

Unfortunately, many airlines now use CASS to authenticate a pilot's jumpseat eligibility, period. No CASS, no jumpseat privilege...cockpit or cabin.

 

Whoa, you're one of the few who can spell 'privilege' correctly.

 

I don't know who you work for, but its not that way where I'm at. CASS is for cockpit only. I've never been checked in CASS for riding in the back on any airline besides United. United seems to be the only one who checks passport numbers as well.

 

umm, Spell Check? Welcome to the 90s!

 

Is there a spell checker on APC? Actually I predate spell checkers, I just knew how to spell it.

 

You should technically be able to cabin jumpseat without CASS and a passport. But UA, DL, US, AA, US, and WN always ask me for it so I'm not sure how it would work if you don't have one.

 

When I was new at XJ and not in CASS but had my crew badge I was attempting to get back to MSP on Airways. I wasn't in uniform and know the blue smurfs sometimes won't let you through security without uniform or gate pass so I went to ticket counter to get a pass. The lady tried looking me up and CASS and wasn't able to find me. Because the company hadn't put me in yet. So she said I wouldn't be able to jumpseat. I tried telling her that CASS was only for Cockpit Access and my crew badge and a recip agreement were all I needed for a seat in the back. She didn't care and said no. I talked to her supervisor who said the same thing, he then radioed another supervisor and asked her and she said the same thing: "if your not coming up in CASS you don't get on the plane, period." I should also mention that I knew the Captain of this flight and he told me a couple days before that all I needed was my badge and I could have a seat in the back. So after not getting anywhere with the ticket agent I decided to try my luck getting through security. Well it worked and I got to the gate and checked in. She tried looking me up in CASS and once again said she wasn't able to find me and then went on to say, "well that doesn't matter anyways because there are seats in the back." How can one group of people be so clueless and another group know what they are doing at the same airport and the same company.

 

TSA has not issued any requirement to be removed if you are on a LOA, be it MIL, Voluntary, medical, etc. You MUST be removed from CASS is you are subsequently furloughed.

CASS is for cockpit access only. UA, DAL, CAL, SWA....none of them requires your CASS data to be positively verified. There are some agents that don't know better, but the airline policy does not require CASS for a cabin seat. Some airlines want to process you through CASS when you check in in case you end up in the cockpit (CAL, SWA DAL, and a few others), but if your CASS query comes back denied you will be restricted to a cabin seat only (exception is Alaska, Horizon, and maybe AA).

 

I never have a boarding pass when passing security even if I'm nonreving on company. Sometimes, though, the smurf police has asked me for a boarding pass. I just tell them, "I'll be jumpseating today." One TSA lady once asked me what that was. She looked at me with skeptic eyes but let me through after I explained it to her in under 10 seconds.

I think some people who are ignorant just like to err on the side of safety. You can't blame them, but it would be nice if everyone involved were on the same page regarding company policies.

 

I just want to know how do you "jumpseat", CASS or not, without a company ID?
I am assuming that if you are on leave, you do not have a company ID?