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Flyer2000 04-22-2009 10:27 AM

ID's may be kept on any LOA....but not furlough.

Mason32 04-22-2009 11:37 AM

be sure and check you company policies.... regardless of what you MAY be able to do at OAL's, your company policy may say otherwise. I know of at least two carriers that prohibit OAL cabin/cockpit jumpseating if on leaves of any kind.

Rama04 04-22-2009 12:19 PM

Thanks for all the responses!
I agree that you should stay in CASS as it is a program which is used to verify your credentials. There would obviously be priority given as a courtesy to guys flying to work over guys flying home over guys flying for pleasure as there always is!
The company does stupid things though because they see us as flying for "Free" ... they dont view this as our last resort (which it is most times!).
Anyway, I will keep you updated on whether or not my airline removes me.
I believe that I should still be able to sit in the back even if I'm not in CASS - I will probably have to stuggle with the gate agents for that one tho!
~Safe Flyin

DeltaPaySoon 04-22-2009 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 598818)
If the company allows jumpseat access (or any other benefit) to non-military leave takers, they are legally required to offer it to those on military leave.


I certainly don't doubt that. My understanding was that you didn't even need CASS for military or medical and that the company would give you "as needed" passes.

That may vary from company to company too.

DeltaPaySoon 04-22-2009 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 598910)
You can be on leave, vacation, etc and still be considered to be employed. I suspect the TSA draws the line at furloughs.


Now wait a minute. Didn't an arbitraitor JUST rule that the furloughed ladies and gentelmen of American Airlines were still employed?!?

You know, the ones that haven't received a benifit, paycheck, phone call, christmas card, update, etc. for up to 7 years?!?

You mean the TSA may have their own rules?!?


TIC.......kinda (not you, the ruling and the TSA).

hemaybedid 04-22-2009 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by DeltaPaySoon (Post 599521)
Now wait a minute. Didn't an arbitraitor JUST rule that the furloughed ladies and gentelmen of American Airlines were still employed?!?

You know, the ones that haven't received a benifit, paycheck, phone call, christmas card, update, etc. for up to 7 years?!?

You mean the TSA may have their own rules?!?


TIC.......kinda (not you, the ruling and the TSA).

I was going to say the same thing. We need to get that arbitrator involed in this issue.

SpiraMirabilis 04-22-2009 04:27 PM

It depends, there may be some guiding princaples on this from above but it seems to be however the airline wants to do it. At Mesa if you're on the voluntary leave (1 year) then youre out of CASS, if youre on the "time off program" (30,60 days) then youre still in CASS.

av8sean 04-24-2009 06:22 AM

They've been removing guys at Pinnacle from CASS even on 7 day LOAs. The last guy I talked to said he was removed from CASS but still jumpseated many times with just his ID badge on several airlines. What I don't understand is, what's with the ZED tickets? Not being able to use ZED tickets on a LOA kind of defeats the purpose of taking one for a lot of people, since most guys want to travel..

Flyer2000 04-24-2009 08:35 AM

What your company decides to do, and what is required under TSA SD's could be two different things.


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