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rlh724 05-05-2009 05:20 AM

wasn't there a study one time, that there will be a huge shortage of pilots?

bryris 05-05-2009 07:01 AM

I've studied it and I say yes. It costs 179/hr dual to fly a 172SP now days. Not many can afford that. Some will take loans, but they've still got to pay.

el jefe 05-05-2009 07:30 AM

Sorry you missed the bus, the next one won't be around for a while. Find something else to do in the meantime. Otherwise, you're just another crazy person hanging out at the bus station.



Too deep?

waflyboy 05-05-2009 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by el jefe (Post 605765)
Otherwise, you're just another crazy person hanging out at the bus station.

LOL! Good analogy.

Mason32 05-05-2009 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by rlh724 (Post 605706)
wasn't there a study one time, that there will be a huge shortage of pilots?


yes, and once they pass user fess there will be even less pilots.

The end result is the airlines will begin ab-initio programs in China and elsewhere, where they import you, house and train you in exchange for a six-ten year contract at 30k a year. Six days on 3 days off... and there will be a steady line of them to take the job.

AirWillie 05-05-2009 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 605800)
yes, and once they pass user fess there will be even less pilots.

The end result is the airlines will begin ab-initio programs in China and elsewhere, where they import you, house and train you in exchange for a six-ten year contract at 30k a year. Six days on 3 days off... and there will be a steady line of them to take the job.

I submit that the future pilot shortage will not be caused by restrictions but by the fact that flying will have become on the same level as driving a bus. Sure there are those that will go over the cliff to fly, like embry dribble and company because they've been brainwashed that their degree will take them to Fedex in not time. But most out there have other expectations to flying as well. I've talked to a few non airline pilots lately and I was surprised at how low they view airline flying. They actually belive we already have the bus driver status. The amount of comm applicants has gone way down the last several years. When majors hire again there will be chaos.

Imagine someone out there right now trying to fly airlines.. They see what is going on. Regionals are taking over the skies. Do you think they would pursue this career or at least the airline avenue when they know that they will be regional pilots for a very long time?

Dan64456 05-05-2009 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by cappelation (Post 605588)
has anyone ever realized...even if things turn around and the regionals start hiring again...
Pay and QOL will never improve.
Pay should be minimum double what it is.
all of you people standing in line to take these jobs ruin it for everyone.

You can have my cubicle... I bet I make less than you too.

I hear what you are saying tho, pay should certainly be higher than it is. But just be glad you aren't someones office *****, you aren't flipping burgers, or slaving away on some assembly line.

If we want this to change, u gotta make it public knowledge that regional FO's only make xxx amount of money... Idiot public still think they make 6 figures...

Yet they don't mind supporting sports figures in their 20's making millions of dollars per year for throwing a ball around a field.

USMCFLYR 05-05-2009 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 605800)
yes, and once they pass user fess there will be even less pilots.

The end result is the airlines will begin ab-initio programs in China and elsewhere, where they import you, house and train you in exchange for a six-ten year contract at 30k a year. Six days on 3 days off... and there will be a steady line of them to take the job.

Sounds like the military in some ways!

USMCFLYR

AirWillie 05-05-2009 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Dan64456 (Post 605852)
You can have my cubicle... I bet I make less than you too.

I hear what you are saying tho, pay should certainly be higher than it is. But just be glad you aren't someones office *****, you aren't flipping burgers, or slaving away on some assembly line.

If we want this to change, u gotta make it public knowledge that regional FO's only make xxx amount of money... Idiot public still think they make 6 figures...

Yet they don't mind supporting sports figures in their 20's making millions of dollars per year for throwing a ball around a field.

Going to the public will be meaningless. If the bomb makers union came on demanding higher wages do you think you'd care? No. What we should be doing every chance we get as well as our unions is to educate future pilots. That's they only way.

Dan64456 05-05-2009 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 605861)
Going to the public will be meaningless. If the bomb makers union came on demanding higher wages do you think you'd care? No. What we should be doing every chance we get as well as our unions is to educate future pilots. That's they only way.

or keep doing what this board is doing - turning people off to ever becoming a pilot... That way demand goes up, supply goes down... lol


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