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Old 05-04-2009 | 07:40 PM
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has anyone ever realized...even if things turn around and the regionals start hiring again...
Pay and QOL will never improve.
Pay should be minimum double what it is.
all of you people standing in line to take these jobs ruin it for everyone.
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:01 PM
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All new observations. Thanks!
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:17 PM
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I think we all were/are guilty of "standing in line" at one point or another. We have no one else to blame but ourselves.

...and ditto with the post above.
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cappelation
has anyone ever realized...even if things turn around and the regionals start hiring again...
Pay and QOL will never improve.
Pay should be minimum double what it is.
all of you people standing in line to take these jobs ruin it for everyone.
Nice job. You have solved everything. Other than the 50 posts/day on this exact topic, you might be the first one after 2239 CT tonight to realize this. Congrats.
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:22 PM
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I think we are all just happy to have jobs right now....

Great thread.
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:26 PM
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Wow. That was a mind-blowing epiphany! Thanks for the great words of encouragement and I look forward to more valuable nuggets of your opinion in the future. There is WAY WAY more to this profession then shiny jets, spiffy uniforms, OQL and pay. If thats what your in this for, then perhaps this isn't the line of work for you. Some of my students read these forums and are concerned with some of the things they read. I tell them that some of people who write on here are people that speak but have nothing to say. So do me a favor and go back to your 150 and stop costing me business...
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:36 PM
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i agree the pay and qol "should be" better, but it comes down to simple supply and demand for pilots. it's terrible that a lot of jobs that require less skill and education pay as much if not more, have better qol and are more stable. this is why i think people these days realize that being an airline pilot is not as good a job as it once was and are choosing different careers. just look at the hiring boom 2 years ago, at the time there was only small movement and growth in the industry but the pool of pilots looked like it was drying up quickly. 10 or 15 years ago there was many more pilots to choose from and regionals wouldn't have to hire at commercial mins back then. just look at how many flight schools are out there now compared to 10 years ago. even the largest schools here are only barely surviving by catering to the foreign students, no average joe wants to spend 60k+ for a 20k job (if you can even find one now) with the prospects of not being home every night for your family and not knowing if your airline will even be around next year.
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cappelation
has anyone ever realized...even if things turn around and the regionals start hiring again...
Pay and QOL will never improve.
Pay should be minimum double what it is.
all of you people standing in line to take these jobs ruin it for everyone.
No offense, but everyone knows the realities of the industry already, you're a bit late to the party; but thank you for playing.
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Old 05-04-2009 | 09:09 PM
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Threads like these are the excat reason that the regional forum is worthless to even visit anymore. Bravo captain obvious.
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Old 05-04-2009 | 09:28 PM
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Every time I look on the forums I feel like drinking a gallon of skydrol afterwards.
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