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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 607405)
No, you do not allow the mainline pilots the ability to try and claim something they gave up. When I left ASA, I resigned my seniority number. I now have no rights to that nujmer and the associated DOH that went with it. With the staple, the Guy who left ASA one week prior to the staple would have bidding seniority to everyone stapled below him. However, those guys would be getting more pay and vacation than him, based on their DOH. Are we now going to be Socialists and complain because someone junior to us for bidding is making more money? If that's the case, then I want a cut of everyone junior to me who rakes it in doing Rolling Thunder.
The only pilots that should go above a mainline pilot on a merged list are those with significantly more 121 time than the pilots on the major list. A regional pilot with 20+ years would start to fall into this catagory. If you say that pilot who left ASA doesn't have any right to count those 15 years of service, then I would say the pilot who is currently at ASA with 10 years deserves zero years of credit because he never got hired at the Major level yet... to the bottom of the list you go. |
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Don't worry, I'm working on this complicated stapling dilema as we speak... How about a nice game of chess? :D |
Originally Posted by tpersuit
(Post 607450)
It would be completely unfair for that pilot that had 15 years at a regional and then went to Major to be put behind a pilot at a regional that has less total years. If that is the case than I would just push for all the regional pilot's to get stapled below the Major pilots. This is why all mergers go bad because you aren't looking at total service of each pilot on the list.
The only pilots that should go above a mainline pilot on a merged list are those with significantly more 121 time than the pilots on the major list. A regional pilot with 20+ years would start to fall into this catagory. If you say that pilot who left ASA doesn't have any right to count those 15 years of service, then I would say the pilot who is currently at ASA with 10 years deserves zero years of credit because he never got hired at the Major level yet... to the bottom of the list you go. |
I don't want to rain on the speculation parade to much but I haven't read anything about why in the world DAL mgmt would even think about giving the pilots that type of negotiating power.
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So when would any of this take place? I'm assuming DALPA would be organizing this? And what would management say about or do to prevent it?
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Originally Posted by atlmsl
(Post 607699)
So when would any of this take place? I'm assuming DALPA would be organizing this? And what would management say about or do to prevent it?
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 607780)
It was just an idea of how a staple could work to most everybody's advantage, if the company ever wanted to combine everybody. Didn't say that it was a done deal.
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Originally Posted by SpyGlass
(Post 607478)
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Don't worry, I'm working on this complicated stapling dilema as we speak... How about a nice game of chess? :D |
Originally Posted by atlmsl
(Post 607803)
Oh I know... but earlier posts mentioned that it was "in the works." Just didn't know if this was a management push or a DALPA push to get RJ flying back.
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
(Post 607861)
It's part of DALPA's 5 year plan. It's their pie in the sky plan to get the RJ flying back.
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