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USMC3197 05-06-2009 08:48 PM

SKYW Inc Q1 2009 Earnings Call - Furlough ASA
 
Furloughed ASA guys... take a look at page 6. Looks like Inc. considers us a cost cutting steps that will reflect 2nd Quarter earnings. From that I take it we can kiss summer recall goodbye unless ASA management batts for a recall. :( Sucks to hear this 3 months deep into the furlough.

"So, the things that we can do specifically; I think you saw and announced furlough of ASA pilots that was announced maybe a quarter ago and that’s happened and should help us be more inline with our crews at ASA specifically."

SkyWest Inc. Q1 2009 Earnings Call Transcript -- Seeking Alpha

ExperimentalAB 05-06-2009 09:29 PM

That's rough guys...didn't they say initially that they weren't going to furlough unless they saw it as less than a very temporary measure?

Feel for ya :(

SpyGlass 05-06-2009 10:21 PM

Thanks for sharing Daniel. I've read the entire transcript and get much of the same feeling about this as you did. I don't know about you, but for me, this info just falls in-line and helps confirm what I've already been expecting concerning our furlough. From day one I've tried to take the pessimistic approach regarding our situation, that way I don't get too optimistic over any new ASA current events. Take ASA's large summer increase in block hours for example, it's hard not to take this as a sliver of hope for us, but in reality I believe the only way we might return is when we are compared to the "snapshot" of how ASA looks come fall and winter (my opinion). I would LOVE to be wrong about this though! As things stand now I try to just to remove myself from thinking I fit anywhere in the ASA equation, and focus strictly on bettering and enjoying myself outside of the cockpit. Just trying to make the best of it in my own way like everyone else I guess...

By the way, I've been wondering how many of us are left out of 80? The recall page on ourASA one shows that only one person has listed as a bypass. There are 3 other people that I know personally who are now done with training and flying the line at GJ, and they are still on our list.

Gunga Galunga 05-06-2009 10:30 PM

I pretty much agree with you guys. This only confirms what everyone thought from the start. Hopefully, just as things did at AirTran, things will be better than once forecasted and we can be back. Can't get your hopes too high though, as they continue to look for any and every way to cut fat.

I also would like to see how many are left. Besides the GJ crowd, there are a few I know who have jumped shipped to other ventures. Come on ASA, find something to do for the ~60 people left

USMC3197 05-06-2009 11:11 PM

RECALL LIST - I know a few people on that list that is now on the line at Go Jet. None of them personally but I know guys that fly there and they passed their names to me. (first and last looked them up on the list and there it was still) Why aren't they removed since Go Jet supposedly made them turn in a resignation letter?

Also the current recall list is missing some names, just look at the seniority numbers and you'll see the missing ones. One of them was someone I knew so I called him up and asked why did he leave. He told me didn't leave ASA, as a matter of fact he now works there in a different department. He looked at the list and told me that other guys he knows that are furloughed and found another department to work for in the mean time is also missing from that list. So as of right now, it looks like the missing people on the recall list are not really removed. Just working at ASA in another department till recall. Soooooo where is the accurate recall list at? Don't look at me....

Recall - I agree, I think our recall is going to be based of the worst season of flying not the best. (FALL 2009/SPRING 2010)

FlyASA 05-07-2009 07:33 AM

I think this goes to show that whenever Inc. needs to trim jobs they are going to do it from the ASA side. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Skywest doing some of our flying that we can't cover this summer due to understaffing. I'm not mad about it, I'm just finally coming to the realization that we are the whipping boys/girls for Inc.

I wonder how much money Inc. would have saved if they had trimmed the fat at the management level? Do we really need two seperate management groups? There has got to be some cost savings that can realized by sharing some of the duties between the two groups.

Unless they find a home for at least 10 of the CRJs we are losing they won't need us at all in the spring/summer of 2010. In fact they'll probably furlough more.....

Nevets 05-07-2009 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by FlyASA (Post 606684)
I think this goes to show that whenever Inc. needs to trim jobs they are going to do it from the ASA side. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Skywest doing some of our flying that we can't cover this summer due to understaffing. I'm not mad about it, I'm just finally coming to the realization that we are the whipping boys/girls for Inc.

I wonder how much money Inc. would have saved if they had trimmed the fat at the management level? Do we really need two seperate management groups? There has got to be some cost savings that can realized by sharing some of the duties between the two groups.

Its the price they pay for not integrating and jeopardizing SKW becoming unionized. I'm sure they perform a calculated risk/benefit analysis.

Truman_Sparks 05-07-2009 09:02 AM

They wont recall until they find out the fate of the 20 a/c leaving the fleet. No need to bring back the 80, and then furlough again when/If the 20 a/c leave the fleet.

Until that, or attrition happens, ASA won't be recalling. This was a "right-sizing" of our staffing for a loss of 20 planes.

cessnamann 05-07-2009 11:14 AM

GoJet/ASA
 
[quote=USMC3197;606599]RECALL LIST - I know a few people on that list that is now on the line at Go Jet. None of them personally but I know guys that fly there and they passed their names to me. (first and last looked them up on the list and there it was still) Why aren't they removed since Go Jet supposedly made them turn in a resignation letter?


I can name three on the furlough list who went to GoJet as well. Does anybody know how many went to GoJet? I’ve heard rumors it may be as many as a dozen. These pilots should not be allowed on our list; giving up seniority to go to GoJet was part of the deal.

USMC3197 05-07-2009 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by cessnamann (Post 606756)

I can name three on the furlough list who went to GoJet as well. Does anybody know how many went to GoJet? I’ve heard rumors it may be as many as a dozen. These pilots should not be allowed on our list; giving up seniority to go to GoJet was part of the deal.

It was part of Go Jets deal not ASAs. Remember, ASA said that we are allowed to find other flying gigs. Go Jet was the one that wanted us to give up our recall number if we went to them. - THIS WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I CALLED THE FURLOUGH COORDINATOR A MONTH AGO ABOUT THIS MATTER.

I'm not defending anyone here though... I didn't go to GO JET.


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