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Originally Posted by 577nitro
(Post 609042)
The above would state you have are a certified instrument instructor and a multi-engine instructor. The CFII and MEI imply you have a commercial for single and ME. Neither however, states that you have instrument privileges on your ME commercial license. Which, as we all know, is an additional and more difficult test than the ME and MEI alone. Hence the reason I added the MECI. Unless I missed something? :confused:
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
(Post 609053)
If you have an instrument rating and then you do a multi comm checkride that makes you able to fly twins in IFR. I've never heard of MECI.
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It says instrument airplane on your ticket, so if it has fixed wings, at least one engine, and you're qualified in it, you can fly it instrument.
Just so you know, it is not conventional to use the acronym MEIC. You're going to have employers do the same thing that happened on here. What is this guy talking about?! |
Originally Posted by Purpleanga
(Post 609053)
If you have an instrument rating and then you do a multi comm checkride that makes you able to fly twins in IFR. I've never heard of MECI.
(b) Limitations. (1) A person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category or powered-lift category rating and does not hold an instrument rating in the same category and class will be issued a commercial pilot certificate that contains the limitation, “The carriage of passengers for hire in (airplanes) (powered-lifts) on cross-country flights in excess of 50 nautical miles or at night is prohibited.” The limitation may be removed when the person satisfactorily accomplishes the requirements listed in §61.65 of this part for an instrument rating in the same category and class of aircraft listed on the person's commercial pilot certificate. Basically, you have to add the instrument privileges to the commercial, by passing an instrument test at commercial standards, in category and class. |
COM-ASMEL, CFI-AIM.
These are the most widely used (and understood) acronyms for the Commercial Airplane Single & Multi-Engine Land and CFI-Airplane/Instrument/Multi qualifications. In the world of professional flying, its assumed that if you have a Commercial then you also have an instrument rating; the only circumstance I've ever seen where this isn't the case is rotary wing. |
Originally Posted by 577nitro
(Post 609158)
From the FARS:
(b) Limitations. (1) A person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category or powered-lift category rating and does not hold an instrument rating in the same category and class will be issued a commercial pilot certificate that contains the limitation, “The carriage of passengers for hire in (airplanes) (powered-lifts) on cross-country flights in excess of 50 nautical miles or at night is prohibited.” The limitation may be removed when the person satisfactorily accomplishes the requirements listed in §61.65 of this part for an instrument rating in the same category and class of aircraft listed on the person's commercial pilot certificate. Basically, you have to add the instrument privileges to the commercial, by passing an instrument test at commercial standards, in category and class. Sorry if I stirred the pot earlier. I didn't intend to cause any foul. You put: ...CFI, MEI, CFII, MEIC... I put: ...CFII, MEI... My reasoning: -CFII implies CFI...so you can drop CFI from your list. -CFI and MEI imply you already have your commercial. You can't instruct without a commercial ticket. So you can drop the "C", or commercial, reference in MEIC. -Your cert lists "instrument airplane" so you can fly (or teach since you're a CFII) instruments in a single or multi engine airplane (as long as you have your MEI). Drop the "I", or instrument, reference in MEIC...or drop MEIC altogether. Hope this helps. Anyone feel free to help clarify. Bonus points for those of you who take precious time from your day to analyze my grammar. 5150 |
Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
(Post 609135)
It says instrument airplane on your ticket, so if it has fixed wings, at least one engine, and you're qualified in it, you can fly it instrument.
Just so you know, it is not conventional to use the acronym MEIC. You're going to have employers do the same thing that happened on here. What is this guy talking about?! |
Originally Posted by 577nitro
(Post 609131)
Actually I meant MEIC. Multi-engine Instrument Commercial. What ever..
No such thing License = Private, Commerical, ATP Ratings = Instrument, Multiengine.... you are talking about limitations, which have nothing whatsoever to with with license type or ratings. |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 609165)
COM-ASMEL, CFI-AIM.
These are the most widely used (and understood) acronyms for the Commercial Airplane Single & Multi-Engine Land and CFI-Airplane/Instrument/Multi qualifications. In the world of professional flying, its assumed that if you have a Commercial then you also have an instrument rating; the only circumstance I've ever seen where this isn't the case is rotary wing. |
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 609213)
No such thing
License = Private, Commerical, ATP Ratings = Instrument, Multiengine.... you are talking about limitations, which have nothing whatsoever to with with license type or ratings. |
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