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#11
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
When I was young, confident, complacent and "it can't happen to me" pilot, I wasn't a perfect steward for a sterile flight deck (sightseeing comments, to my crew members, were my vices).
Reading a cvr transcript back then changed my ways.
About 5000 aircraft (all operations) are airborne over the U.S. at noon on a typical day, 1 crew not observing sterile flight deck procedures below 10,000 msl is one too many!
How many professional crews engage in this behavior?
If you have a crew member that likes to yap in sterile, except for conversations regarding flight, stay quiet.
She/he might get the hint. Then lead by example, when you complete the climb checks after passing 10 or 18k, talk up the non-critical stuff. Descending back through 18 or 10k, shut the non flight stuff off.
Please use this recent cvr transcript as a trigger to reflect on your own behaviors...
Reading a cvr transcript back then changed my ways.
About 5000 aircraft (all operations) are airborne over the U.S. at noon on a typical day, 1 crew not observing sterile flight deck procedures below 10,000 msl is one too many!
How many professional crews engage in this behavior?
If you have a crew member that likes to yap in sterile, except for conversations regarding flight, stay quiet.
She/he might get the hint. Then lead by example, when you complete the climb checks after passing 10 or 18k, talk up the non-critical stuff. Descending back through 18 or 10k, shut the non flight stuff off.
Please use this recent cvr transcript as a trigger to reflect on your own behaviors...
I'm trying to be more compliant.
#12
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 45,127
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Last time I checked "professionals" were paid more than minimum wage... So much demanded from people that live with mummy and daddy because they can't afford rent. Maybe better pay can attract more candidates and then you can be more selective in choosing "professional" pilot to work at your airline.
I can kind of understand the pay argument with regard to professional appearance and behavior on overnights though...
#13
Do you expect the same service from McDonald's as you would from a good steakhouse? All I am saying, is that with better pay you attract more professionals or at least you can pick your pilots out of larger pool and you are more likely to get more qualified candidates. Everyone expect pilots to be held up to the highest standard when it comes to experience, professionalism etc. ,except when it comes to pay. People defend outrageous CEO salaries because it keeps the best from leaving the company, yet this rule somehow does not work for pilots....
Is this the excuse you are prepared to use?
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 448
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From: Out
Service is not the issue when we are talking about sterile cockpit procedures. When I go to McDonald's I still expect my fries not to be burned. We are talking about keeping your mouth shut when you are supposed to and pay has nothing to do with your ability to do that.
Is this the excuse you are prepared to use?
Is this the excuse you are prepared to use?
#15
Now for my unpopular brainstorming question:
If we abandon the seniority based upgrade for the merit/skill upgrade of the corporate world, couldn't we attract better candidates that would go straight to captain???
#16
Do you think a Fed-ex pilot deserves 300K to work 10 days a month and fly boxes around? Maybe, maybe not, but many of us get into this business for a shot at the dream. I'm sorry if you're frustrated at the current state of the industry but if you're not willing to do your best for the people who put their lives in your hands then you won't be missed.
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