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Intl Jumper 05-12-2009 05:43 PM

International Jumpseating Shuttle
 
Does anyone from Shuttle know if I can ride the jumpseat from the US to an international location. I am trying to get home to MTY, ICAO MMMY, from ATL next Tuesday and the flight is oversold by 50 seats. Continental apparently cut their Mexican flying by 50 percent, ruling out any chances of me getting home. Anyone know the offical TSA rules? Or the Shuttle company rules? Thanks in advance.:cool:

TBucket 05-12-2009 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Intl Jumper (Post 609388)
Does anyone from Shuttle know if I can ride the jumpseat from the US to an international location. I am trying to get home to MTY, ICAO MMMY, from ATL next Tuesday and the flight is oversold by 50 seats. Continental apparently cut their Mexican flying by 50 percent, ruling out any chances of me getting home. Anyone know the offical TSA rules? Or the Shuttle company rules? Thanks in advance.:cool:

You can't ride the actual jumpseat to an international destination. You can ride in the cabin while "jumpseating" but cannot occupy the cockpit jumpseat.

Justdoinmyjob 05-12-2009 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 609455)
You can't ride the actual jumpseat to an international destination. You can ride in the cabin while "jumpseating" but cannot occupy the cockpit jumpseat.


Actually, you can't ride the actual JS into the US. Outbound, the TSA doesn't care. However, the airline may restrict you to the cabin outbound.

Intl Jumper 05-12-2009 08:15 PM

Being an international commuter I ran into this only a few times. I have jumpseated on my own company's jumpseat both directions internationally, but Shuttle flies that route now. Looking for anyone with a shuttle FOM to see their guidance on OAL pilots jumpseating outbound. You can jumpseat out, with a seat in the cabin, on almost every airline except AA, and the cargo guys....Funny how AA and Eagle pilots can jumpseat in the back on international flights on Delta and DCI, but wont reciprocate... thats another thread!

TBucket 05-12-2009 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 609464)
Actually, you can't ride the actual JS into the US. Outbound, the TSA doesn't care. However, the airline may restrict you to the cabin outbound.


Interesting, I was denied going from ORD-YOW a few weeks back...

Avroman 05-13-2009 03:55 AM

According to my company(XJ) TSA (AKA the smurfs) do not allow riding in the jumpseat in either direction. We can't even ride on our own js international much less anyone else.

Justdoinmyjob 05-13-2009 05:59 AM

OK, I stand corrected. Apparently after reviewing our FOM, there was a change in April of this year restricting the JS for international to employees only. Guess I should read those changes more closely.

However, according to some rumblings from our JS coorsinator, the TSA is supposed to lift their restriction sometime soon. That said, their idea of soon and ours differs somewhat.

Emb170man 05-13-2009 01:21 PM

In order to sit in the cockpit j/s intl yu have to be listed as a crewmember on the Gen Dec....The only way you are going to get that to happen is if you work for that company.

PokerPro 05-13-2009 01:37 PM

At my company (NK), you can sit in an FA jumpseat int'l, but we don't allow OAL guys to sit up front.

Avroman 05-13-2009 04:16 PM

We just got another reminder that even WE aren't allowed to sit in our OWN FA jumpseat domestically much less internationally..... :mad:

Coehill 05-13-2009 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 609592)
According to my company(XJ) TSA (AKA the smurfs) do not allow riding in the jumpseat in either direction. We can't even ride on our own js international much less anyone else.

Hey Avroman, according to the FOM you are 100% correct. However I have e-mailed our Jumpseat rep and he claims XJ pilots are allowed to sit in the cockpit jumpseat on international flights as long as its a XJ operated flight. He then tried to get this ability revised in the FOM and I haven't heard back.

This is similar to other airlines. I know Expressjet and Compass are the same.


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