"Remember 3407" Airline Labor Reform Act

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05-17-2009 | 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mason32

Didn't work so well for AMR with the planes leased to TSA.... that just came back, with AD's not complied with, parts timed out, MEL misapplied, and repairs doen incorrectly. It should be a lesson to ANY mainline carrier that is considering subcontracting...

AMR is only now realizing how much more liability they exposed themselves to with a subcontractor, than with their in-house.

I think maybe I wasnt clear in my post but I will try to sum it up. Basically what the MEC of DAL is trying to is to create a standard for who is able to bid for flying (ie. 9E, XJ, OO, etc) It would all boil down to minimum requirements of the CBA for a regional airline. For example, minimum contract requires first year pay of $30 and hour. If you current CBA doesnt meet that requirment, you will not be allowed to bid on any flying that DAL has put out. What that would do is prevent Mesa from coming in, opening a base is MSP and then undercutting the other carriers who meet these standards. Maybe that is what AMR did, I honestly didnt follow them, maybe this is more clear, or maybe this is what you interpreted anyway.

05-18-2009 | 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by iPilot

Instead of single items to fix like duty limits or pay, let's try and push to level the playing field between pilots and management. I suggest overhauling the RLA and let unions at the various airlines dictate what our pay should be.

I asked a senior ALPA guy (from FDX) this exact question several years ago.
His explanation was that since RLA has some benefits for both sides, neither ALPA nor ATA wants to open that can of worms...with congress involved, nobody knows what they might end up with.

Not saying that's the right answer, but that appears to be the mentality of the leadership....let sleeping dogs lie.

05-18-2009 | 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

... neither ALPA nor ATA wants to open that can of worms...with congress involved, nobody knows what they might end up with.

That's a valid concern -- just consider the unintended consequences of airline deregulation. I'm reminded of a "Three Stooges" episode where the hapless homeowner asks Curley, Larry, and Moe to fix a simple plumbing leak.

05-18-2009 | 07:31 AM

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Isn't that the same episode where Larry is pulling a ton of wires through some pipes? They were in a mansion where the owner was hosting some sort of a party if my memory serves me correctly.