Toss the backpacks and buy some decent luggage.


Fred

You both sound like you have never been to an airport. I have seen more pilots with IPODs in the majors than in the regionals in the last month, who cares? And because of the complaining on this internet forum from one or two people, I started looking for wrinkled shirts/pants/blazers to see what all the fuss is about: Turns out its 1 out of 3 pilots, and in all regionals and majors. I wonder if any of those people have reduced rest overnights that allow 4 hours of sleep. No, probably not.

Thank you by the way for playing police officer and solving all of our REAL problems.

Um ok?

Solving real problems by ironing my shirt, dude get over yourself.

"dude", how old are you? You are the one comlaining about lack of professionalism by wrinkled clothes and dull shoes while calling me dude.

I've never seen any of my co-workers walking through the airport with an MP3 player on.

So you think I am immature for saying "dude" when you tell someone to come back to the realworld because he cares what he looks like with shined shoes and a pressed shirt?

If you think you need to look like garbage in your uniform for the fact you dont get paid 100 000 a year to fly around makes me think you need to give your head a shake..... dude.

Attitudes like yours are what gives some of us pilots a bad name. You want the public to put some faith in who is up front then look and act like you deserve that faith and respect for that matter.

I dont care if a mainline pilot has spiked hair or has an ipod get over it that is what they wanna do then good for them. I doubt that same pilot whines and complains everyday his job sucks and he definitely doesnt tell people to come back to the realword for having an ironed shirt.

Slow down and read. I said take off your blindfold and look around the airport for pilots without wrinkled shirts.

I hate listening to this!! Just because the pay was bad when we started, doesn't mean we should just sit by and accept it. I'm going to do what I can to improve this career for me, my fellow pilots, and those pilots who come after me. I'm not going to quit and change careers, because I'm too lazy to better my career.

Not so well spoken from someone who told everyone in another thread if they dont like their work rules or pay to quit so you can move up. Once you have been here long enough and you try to push for better work rules to improve your industry, there will be another greedy little pilot like yourself waiting to say "You knew what you were going to be paid, if you dont like it, then quit so I can have your job." And again, nothing will be gained by any of us.

Um, I already have a job, why would I want someone elses job at a different connection carrier.

Also did I say quit so I could move up? No I didn't thanks for the assumptions. All I am saying is ya hate it so much quit and find a new job.

Or maybe you might like collecting unemployment like a lot people are. Look on the brightside at least you have a job.

Why is using an IPod in a terminal unprofessional? I saw a pilot the other day reading a newspaper, talking on a cellphone, and eating a burger. How dare he! I was unaware of the fact that doing everyday things was unprofessional.


Hey Fred maybe you can use your "dynasty heavy" paycheck to buy me some DECENT luggage. PM me for an address to have it shipped. Thanks. People on this forum thinking they are better than someone else based on where they work for, or what they fly makes me sick. Everyone's version of what they did to get where they are now is very different. Maybe they can't afford it. Maybe they really like that backpack that got them through college. Maybe their kid gave it to them. someone having, or not having, "decent" luggage does not at all reflect on their professionalism, or public perception of them whatsoever. Find something else to do in the terminal. Make sure you don't use the public restroom though, thats for the PJ wearing IPod using peons, not you "professionals".

Dude/Dudettes, plain and simple you're a professional look and act the part.

Definition of professionalism: Meticulous adherence to undeviating courtesy, honesty, and responsibility in one's dealings with customers and associates, plus a level of excellence that goes over and above the commercial considerations and legal requirements.

I think this includes ironing your shirts guys/gals.

You can't even compare the two. Eating lunch vs walking around the airport with headphones on? When we put on that uniform, we're representing our airline and our profession. (To be honest, I don't even like it when passengers walk around listening to MP3 players, but that's a whole 'nother thread!) When you have your uniform on, you are the one of the many people who a customer/passenger may approach for help or an answer to a question. It's not easy to approach somebody who's walking around with earphones on not paying attention to what's going on around them. How would you like to go to Best Buy and have the salespeople walking around with headphones on listening to their MP3 player? Do you really need to listen to music that badly? I notice the difference just wearing the hat! I know it sounds crazy, but I get more passengers interacting with me, approaching me, and asking questions in my Delta uniform than I ever did at my previous airline. Whether you want to admit it or not, we are a customer service provider. Don't forget that when you enter the airport with your uniform on.

if we have to explain this to you, then you can't understand it.

Just stick to CFI work.

I know... you either get this stuff or you don't. It just get's annoying that some of these people are the same ones who yell about wanting to be paid like professionals, but don't know how to "act the part."

reading the regional forums sometimes reminds me of the /trade channel in WoW.. (again, if I have to explain it, you won't get it)

Definition of professionalism: Meticulous adherence to undeviating courtesy, honesty, and responsibility in one's dealings with customers and associates, plus a level of excellence that goes over and above the commercial considerations and legal requirements.

This includes not wearing an IPOD walking around the airport in uniform. :rolleyes:

Great definition!

Sorry to bother you with such dribbling, at least the previous poster took the time to make his opinion heard. You must be busy ironing, and my virgin CFI ears probably couldn't understand you divine voice anyway.

Thanks for letting me know where I stand in life and what I should "stick" to.

[quote=Cycle Pilot;613080]You can't even compare the two. Eating lunch vs walking around the airport with headphones on? When we put on that uniform, we're representing our airline and our profession. (To be honest, I don't even like it when passengers walk around listening to MP3 players, but that's a whole 'nother thread!) When you have your uniform on, you are the one of the many people who a customer/passenger may approach for help or an answer to a question. It's not easy to approach somebody who's walking around with earphones on not paying attention to what's going on around them. quote]

While I totally agree with the not wearing headphones in the terminal. My experience seems to be that when I was one the phone, people came up to me even more to ask a question about where their gate was? Where is the restroom? etc. then if I was just walking to my gate with no distractions.....Yet the sign for those questions was always above their heads. Guess I looked helpful.:rolleyes:

What about being fat and out of shape? I see a lot of those types of pilots and they certainly don't look professional. I don't see the difference between them and someone who is in shape who happens to be wearing an i-pod.

Pick your head up champ. Low skills they can kiss my ash, and when that master warning goes your alot more help then they will ever be. I agree, the down side when i used to tell people I'm a pilot they thought i had some money in my pocket now I'll tell them i'm a pilot maybe i can get a beer out of it. Plus I've always been in favor of the brib jar when they get on or the tip jar when they get off. I still like flying.

FWIW All my CFI's dress professional. If they don't like it I tell them that there are alot of hungry pilots out there.

They don't understand that kind of talk, they're only CFIs. They might even drool while they talk.

Last time I checked, fat people can engage the travelling public at the terminal in a 2 way conversation and don't send the message to that travelling public "do not disturb"... sure, I don't like seeing fat slobs with their shirt hanging out, nor do I like to see kids with borderline 20/200 vision... But if we're going to pick battles.. lets start with the backpacks, ipods and doc martins.

At Sporty's, there is a video "How an Airline Captain Should Look and Act" which should be a must to see by every Airline Pilot.

nice contribution

Maybe if the employers in the industry treated pilots, flight attendants, and customer service employees with a little more respect then they would respect their employers and their career choice a little more. Right now they are acting just how they are being treated!