ExperimentalAB

Turbo...who do you think is going to be paying for 500 hours of 141 time??

OldSF3Dude

No, admitedly I didn't pay for my ATP.

But, when I was first hired at a regional I had 1283 total hours and 205 multi-engine, plus my ATP written done. If waiting another 217 hours to get on with an airline would have meant better pay I would have gladly flight instructed/flew charter a few extra months and paid a few hundred bucks for an ATP check ride.

Long term I think ATPs to get hired part-121 is a good idea.

ExperimentalAB

Is that a good thing...that this job is being made easier by the day? A guy I know in Alaska flying the bush...he told me he's not so sure about all the safety/warning/automation "bull." He says that in the years since GPS/Capstone and remote radar that he has had to fail countless Pilots on checkrides when they've gotten head-over-heels lost when the gadgets are turned off. Mentoring won't do it. You need to go back to the basics, and realize that a CRJ is not some computer, but just another airplane. And gee-wiz, it actually hand-flies alright too He also said he's worried about his career -- as the job gets easier and easier, requiring less skill and local knowledge, they'll start hiring low-time CFI's from the lower-48 by the hundreds, driving salaries down through the floor. THAT should not be forgotten...because we're in the same boat here. Soon enough flying a CRJ will be simpler than hopping in a Civic -- and then almost anybody can do it.

What?! I've witnessed CRJ Captains that can't barely keep the dirty side down without the Autopilot

ExperimentalAB

Is that the Sound of Music?? LoL

ExperimentalAB

Gulfstream Academy, I believe...covered in another thread?

DYNASTY HVY

Yes they do and it beg's the question again one more time and that is are passengers willing to pay more for a ticket ?
I think we all know the answer .



Fred

ToiletDuck

Don't know about you but I had spent enough money to get through my CFI. Don't see how you expect kids to pay for 500hrs.

ToiletDuck

You can't be serious.

NoBeta

Originally posted by Sniper

Don't want to be a CFI, have no talent for teaching, have bad eyes so the military doesn't want you? Fine. Go fly piston freight with your commercial license. Just don't expect you should be able to perform as a airline pilot without being licensed as such.[/quote]



Sniper I am missing your point. No pun intended but IFR 135 can be challenging.

Purpleanga

I get your point. But ATP mins are not practical, not to mention hiring is done by the market conditions at the regionals. The only way that what you are saying is possible is if the gov itself forced the regionals to hire only high timers which will never happen. It's none of their business to tell the airlines how to run their hiring, especially right now. As I stated before these pilots were high timers, the fo had 1600 at the time of hire and a few hundred hours on the q, that wasn't the issue. The people that have any power over this matter will be looking at the training quality and schedules at the regionals.