...and they went with CHQ because they just have such an OUTSTANDING product that they would want to pay MORE? Are you seriously making this argument? The whole industry is about the lowest bidder. I'm pretty sure if CAL wanted a good product they would have kept XJET from the beginning.

Even with the concessions I believe the contract tops anything at CHQ. Canceled pay to start...

 

Man you must be right. Why would CAL want to go with a regional that can be on-time once in a while and actually paint their aircraft? Give me a break dude. Are you honestly proud every time you walk up to a dirty, old, un-painted 145?

You can dog Mesa & GOJET pilots for being uncutters or scabs, but in 30 years when our kids are being taught how the airline industry went to hell, only one name will come up. REPUBLIC. They will come up in school when the teacher is teaching about the profession and they will come up at home when I'm sitting in my trailer along I-90 and I'm trying to explain to my kids why we ran out of food stamps and why mommy left.

 

Continental went with CHQ because CHQ was the only one at the time with the ERJ program that wasn't XJT. CAL didn't want XJT regardless of price because of the liability of have too many eggs in one basket. DAL/Comair showed the industry what that's capable of.

 

I haven't seen numbers for this past quarter that just ended but for the quarter prior to that CHQ had better on-time performance than XJT. Yes we have a few generic aircraft. Honestly I don't care what our aircraft look like. I'm not living on SJS. I go to work and then come home. Our aircraft get washed when they go to MX just like everyone else. No more dirty than any of the other XJT ones sitting out there. Be a little more realistic.

 

ok I'll admit that was kind of a low blow. This 190 stuff just has me a little riled up. I apoligize for that. But honestly Toliet, you and I both know the reason for that is EWR operations. But I agree, thats enough of this talk.

 

You get EWR and I get IAH buses. It's all the same and a little irrelevant. I know you're riled up I am too. Trust me. I know it sounds morbid but I'd rather watch our Midwest contract go poof then set the precidence of 190s at a regional so my future is screwed. I'm making steps like everyone else and I didn't come here as part of some alter-ego union side stepping carrier. These things happen with no knowledge of us and trust me I'll vote no on ANYTHING not JBLU match. There's communications going on with the union guys so we'll all have to sit and wait. Hopefully they'll be able to argue that it's a 100 seat aircraft whether it has 99 seats on it or not... we'll have to see though. We fly a decent amount for US Airways of MCI so HOPEFULLY one of the majors will put their foot down due to direct competition.

 

A little dramatic don't you think? Nobody will talk about Republic, just like nobody talks about Braniff except for guys that worked there. Just like deregulation was a sweeping excuse for the failures of Pan Am et al, relaxation of scope MAY (not will) be the reason the industry changes in the future. Keep in mind how new RJs really are, ten years ago they were few and far between. Contract negotiation don't come up but every 4 years or so and if you think of the aviation climate in the last ten years, the contracts have been mostly to mitigate concessions. The relaxation of scope was part of that movement, because back in 99 nobody knew what RJs would become. I think RJs have quite a bit of visibility and enough mainline guys have gotten furlough letters to warrant much better and stricter rules on scope in the future.

Have some faith brother and spread the word to the mainline guys when you jumpseat! Safe travels.

BTW Toilet, BB will take any contract that's offered to him, be it a 2 year deal or "guppy-killing." He's just trying to turn a profit, thats his job. Thats why you guys get flying, not because of a superior product or passenger comfort. Nothing personal, just stating a fact.

 

Pot.....meet Kettle.

 

Do mean that had ERJs available? Because I'm certain TSA and Freedom were also flying ERJs at the time. (And still are) I'm assuming you meant CHQ was the only ones that had ERJs available.

No flame TD, just asking for clarification.

 

There is already a thread on this.