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UnlimitedAkro 05-22-2009 03:32 AM

Even if they pay RAH pilots more...?
 
Even if they pay RAH pilots more money to fly the 190, it is still not acceptable for anyone at a regional to be flying a jet that large.

If management at other airlines see they can undercut their mainline pilots with regional pilots and pay the regional pilots more money, and still save money compared to what they were paying their mainline pilots, RAH will not be the first if they get away with it. This is not acceptable at any pay rate. We will end up with regional contracts with regional work rules, flying for slightly more money. Its not worth it people!!! WAKE UP!!!! :mad:

alvrb211 05-22-2009 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro (Post 615212)
Even if they pay RAH pilots more money to fly the 190, it is still not acceptable for anyone at a regional to be flying a jet that large.

If management at other airlines see they can undercut their mainline pilots with regional pilots and pay the regional pilots more money, and still save money compared to what they were paying their mainline pilots, RAH will not be the first if they get away with it. This is not acceptable at any pay rate. We will end up with regional contracts with regional work rules, flying for slightly more money. Its not worth it people!!! WAKE UP!!!! :mad:


That's just what the flying public wants theses days. Large aircraft being operated by regionals.:rolleyes:

The E190 is not a trainer!


JJ

Ratherbeoffwork 05-22-2009 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro (Post 615212)
Even if they pay RAH pilots more money to fly the 190, it is still not acceptable for anyone at a regional to be flying a jet that large.

If management at other airlines see they can undercut their mainline pilots with regional pilots and pay the regional pilots more money, and still save money compared to what they were paying their mainline pilots, RAH will not be the first if they get away with it. This is not acceptable at any pay rate. We will end up with regional contracts with regional work rules, flying for slightly more money. Its not worth it people!!! WAKE UP!!!! :mad:


We are awake. What can we do about it? Since you seem to have all the answers.

HercDriver130 05-22-2009 04:16 AM

yes Akro... give us a reasonable answer...not some pie in the sky... "just dont fly those 190's bs".....

Ski Patrol 05-22-2009 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 615235)
yes Akro... give us a reasonable answer...not some pie in the sky... "just dont fly those 190's bs".....

Well.....a few years ago JO wanted Mesa to fly 737's. A proposal was drafted by the union (industry avg wages). Then came the wage proposal from management. Guess what the union said no based on managements proposal. Mesa does not fly 73's today.

Splanky 05-22-2009 05:55 AM

It's ok for Republic to operate these only if they pay major wages and bring Midwest guys on property that wish it. I don't see either happening anytime soon, so it's a major bummer.

meyers9163 05-22-2009 06:53 AM

Pay is only one topic. You have forgotten QOL, work rules, scope etc.... Many of those in which RAH comes no where close to a DAL/SWA/CAL.... Thus PAYRATES mean nothing without the rest of the story.

ToiletDuck 05-22-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro (Post 615212)
Even if they pay RAH pilots more money to fly the 190, it is still not acceptable for anyone at a regional to be flying a jet that large.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Should RAH pay mainline wages, ie match JBLU, there's absolutely no reason these aircraft can't stay where they are. Southwest got started the same way. The company could fly 757s all over the country if they want they had just better pay for it. I'm talking matched pay with those who have the aircraft, B plans, etc.

UnlimitedAkro 05-22-2009 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 615322)
Pay is only one topic. You have forgotten QOL, work rules, scope etc.... Many of those in which RAH comes no where close to a DAL/SWA/CAL.... Thus PAYRATES mean nothing without the rest of the story.

Did you even read the thread?? It clearly says EVEN if they get paid major wages, they are still flying regional contracts and with regional work rules. The rest of us dont need RAH bringing our industry down even more.

UnlimitedAkro 05-22-2009 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 615324)
I couldn't disagree with you more. Should RAH pay mainline wages, ie match JBLU, there's absolutely no reason these aircraft can't stay where they are. Southwest got started the same way. The company could fly 757s all over the country if they want they had just better pay for it. I'm talking matched pay with those who have the aircraft, B plans, etc.

Have you lost your mind?! Is RAH doing self branding flying? Or are they simply replacing the job of perfectly capable pilots at Midwest that are now on the street!

You better rethink what you just said. Im going to hold you to saying that you think it is ok for Republic to outsource 757 flying to replace other major airlines. Unbelievable.


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