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brewpilot 05-27-2009 06:21 PM

Slick looking Saab
 
Hey I was just in LFT yesterday and noticed a very slick painted Mesaba Saab in Delta Colors. For us saab drivers its always nice to see a newly painted one cause it hides the fact of how old and crappy the plane is... But hey its fun to fly!!

fjetter 05-27-2009 07:42 PM

no pics?????? u fail:p

BenFluth216 05-27-2009 09:01 PM

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...16/N457XJ1.jpg

WIPilot 05-28-2009 12:08 AM

I'm sorry but....ewwwww

FlyJSH 05-28-2009 12:20 AM

say what you want, but for a girl with 40,000+ cycles, she still looks pretty good.

Rightseat Ballast 05-28-2009 03:34 AM

I dunno... the forward part of the vertical fin should have been blue to match the rest of the tail, and the "widget" doesn't even come close to fitting on the tail. I think it is an awkward scheme. And who in their right mind paints a prop white? You need more dark colors to hide the stains!

BoilerUP 05-28-2009 03:55 AM

I saw a Saab in LFT last week in this new livery (same airplane maybe?) and I personally thought it looked pretty good.

Waldo11 05-28-2009 04:01 AM

Slick looking Saab???
 
That could be the definition of an Oxymoron.

Maxspeed 05-28-2009 04:19 AM

40, 000 cycles.......it's a ***** in a wedding dress :D

snopilot 05-28-2009 04:28 AM

Let the "Curse of the new Delta paint" begin...
ala Big Sky...
Adios Mesaba great knowing you...

Laxrox43 05-28-2009 05:11 AM

Paint looks great! Nice face lift...

JetFlyer06 05-28-2009 05:11 AM

Heard something the other day maybe an XJ pilot can confirm or deny. I was told the reason your two letter airline code is "XJ" was because the founder of the company was a big Jaguar fan. BTW saw a DAL painted Saab yesterday in DTW, looking nice.:D

GauleyPilot 05-28-2009 05:42 AM

Slick looking Sabb
 
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/...d9bd926c_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/...5f43ba63fb.jpg

1985 SAAB 340A For Sale At Controller.com

BTW: I like the Saab in the DL colors.

bored 05-28-2009 05:43 AM

Nice flame bait snopilot... not gonna bite.

As for the mighty saab... yes, she does look good in the new paint. Our saabs are the "newest" saabs out there and with their new interiors and new paint are hardly pieces of junk. Sure, they rattle, buzz and shake... but they're maintained well and are performing well in their niche for DL and flying them is certainly better than picking up an unemployment check. 40,000 cycles is a bit of an exageration don't you think?

As for XJ and its origins... I don't know. We were an airline long before Bedford showed up, so it would be interesting to know what our two letter code was before his arrival. I've heard the same theory however, with the Jaguars.

Smalls 05-28-2009 06:25 AM

The real question is - when will she have a red nose? Looking sharp in the new paint though!

snopilot 05-28-2009 06:27 AM

Good call bored... I was just being an arse..
No harm meant..
adios
s

ExperimentalAB 05-28-2009 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by snopilot (Post 618219)
Let the "Curse of the new Delta paint" begin...
ala Big Sky...
Adios Mesaba great knowing you...

LoL but that is one helluva sharp looking aircraft...!

robthree 05-28-2009 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast (Post 618203)
I dunno... the forward part of the vertical fin should have been blue to match the rest of the tail, and the "widget" doesn't even come close to fitting on the tail. I think it is an awkward scheme. And who in their right mind paints a prop white? You need more dark colors to hide the stains!

The leading edge of the vertical stab is covered in a black rubber de-ice boot. I'd rather have de-ice capability than color uniformity. :)

But I agree that the 'widget' is way too big for the tail.

forgot to bid 05-28-2009 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Maxspeed (Post 618215)
40, 000 cycles.......it's a ***** in a wedding dress :D

What's the line from the SWA commercial, the kid tugs on the brides dress and says "my mommy said she can't believe you wore white today." :D

ExperimentalAB 05-28-2009 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by robthree (Post 618300)
The leading edge of the vertical stab is covered in a black rubber de-ice boot. I'd rather have de-ice capability than color uniformity. :)

But I agree that the 'widget' is way too big for the tail.

I'm not so sure...'cause we all know the Canadians say the tail doesn't pick up any ice :rolleyes:

johnso29 05-28-2009 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by snopilot (Post 618219)
Let the "Curse of the new Delta paint" begin...
ala Big Sky...
Adios Mesaba great knowing you...


Uhhhh, DAL owns Mesaba again. They also have a bunch of CRJ-900's which makes them way more valuable then Big Sky. Also, the type of agreement that Big Sky entered into with DAL is what did them in. (Paying for fuel, etc). They weren't EAS routes giving guaranteed profits. Two COMPLETELY different situations.

bored 05-28-2009 08:09 AM

Again? When did they own us before? =) You're right... Mesaba and BigSky = two totally different animals.

johnso29 05-28-2009 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 618359)
Again? When did they own us before? =) You're right... Mesaba and BigSky = two totally different animals.

Wasn't Mesaba once owned by NWA then sold, then bought again when in BK? As I recall it worked out quite well for NWA because the got XJ for very cheap due to the fact they were in BK.

bored 05-28-2009 08:42 AM

No... we were always a separate entity until NWA "purchased" us from the sham bankruptcy they sent us to. There were talks in 2001 to buy us, like they did Pinnacle (then Express I) but RA decided at the time it didn't make sense to own your regional partners, so the offer was dropped.

atpwannabe 05-28-2009 08:49 AM

Nice pic; sharp looking!!!:cool:



atp

CANAM 05-28-2009 09:57 AM

Looks nice. My favorite facelift was still ASAs old Embraer 120s. The looked so much better than that old "burger king" paint job they used to have.

FlyJSH 05-28-2009 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 618255)
Our saabs are the "newest" saabs out there and with their new interiors and new paint are hardly pieces of junk. Sure, they rattle, buzz and shake... but they're maintained well and are performing well in their niche for DL and flying them is certainly better than picking up an unemployment check. 40,000 cycles is a bit of an exageration don't you think?

.

Maybe yours are younger. Ours typically have 35,000 hours and 40,000 cycles. :eek:

Figure it this way... 7 legs per day, 300 days flying per year, for 20 years is 42,000.

flyboyzz1 05-28-2009 10:02 AM

I kind of like it!

johnso29 05-28-2009 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 618385)
No... we were always a separate entity until NWA "purchased" us from the sham bankruptcy they sent us to. There were talks in 2001 to buy us, like they did Pinnacle (then Express I) but RA decided at the time it didn't make sense to own your regional partners, so the offer was dropped.


Thanks for the clarification. :)

bored 05-28-2009 01:40 PM

Ours are younger... all B+ and delivered new from Saab and were the last ones off the assembly line. They're all from the late 90s, so the oldest one is slightly older than 10 years.

embpilot 05-28-2009 02:25 PM

re
 
if it isnt mainline its a junker...the end

skid 05-28-2009 03:02 PM

I can still feel my teeth rattling from the last time I was on one...Looks better than the NW scheme but as a pax..yuck!

Coehill 05-28-2009 04:26 PM

Actually as a pax I love it because it puts me right to sleep and no middle seat. Saw the paint job in person today at A46c in Detroit and was really impressed. Sad to say though there is already chipping paint above the windshield revealing the good ol' fleshy pink underneath.

Boomer 05-28-2009 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by BenFluth216 (Post 618143)

One thing Comair FOs learned about the new Delta livery -

When you do the preflight, always walk right up to the fuselage, real close, so the pitot is almost in your ear... and make sure it still says Mesaba on it.

ConnectionPilot 05-28-2009 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Coehill (Post 618645)
Actually as a pax I love it because it puts me right to sleep and no middle seat. Saw the paint job in person today at A46c in Detroit and was really impressed. Sad to say though there is already chipping paint above the windshield revealing the good ol' fleshy pink underneath.

Ditto, i'm passed out soon after takeoff.

BenFluth216 05-28-2009 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 618692)
One thing Comair FOs learned about the new Delta livery -

When you do the preflight, always walk right up to the fuselage, real close, so the pitot is almost in your ear... and make sure it still says Mesaba on it.

Oh yeah you need binoculars. I can just see an earlier morning show in a city with a bunch of DALX birds...."AM I ON THE RIGHT PLANE!?" :p


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 618698)
Ditto, i'm passed out soon after takeoff.

Ahaha same, I actually prefer riding in the Saab over an ERJ or CR2.

meeko031 05-29-2009 10:31 PM

I miss the saab. There is something about the saab when you put it in beta that makes the female pax tingly!

astrojet 05-30-2009 02:43 AM

some people on this forum complain about the sf340....they are lucky they never had to fly in a Beech-99, twin otter, shorts 330, emb-110, ...which were the planes code share partners flew before the dam broke. I still have a rejection letter from air virginia in 1981= they wanted 2000tt, 1500multi, 500turbine as a minimum for a f/o position on the SA-227...

skidmark 05-30-2009 07:15 AM

Alot of people complain about the Saab including myself. However, after several years flying her, I can say she is a success. They built like 600 of them and flying all over the world.

own nav 05-30-2009 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by astrojet (Post 619439)
some people on this forum complain about the sf340....they are lucky they never had to fly in a Beech-99, twin otter, shorts 330, emb-110, ...which were the planes code share partners flew before the dam broke. I still have a rejection letter from air virginia in 1981= they wanted 2000tt, 1500multi, 500turbine as a minimum for a f/o position on the SA-227...

Wow, I never thought I'd see the BE99 grouped in a $#it list like that. Sure, it's slow and unpressurized, but grouped on the most hated list with the twin otter and the shorts 330.... really?

I personally love Beech turboprops. I could definitely see myself spending several years in a King Air if the job were right.


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