I find it funny all the people who say "pay us like professionals and we will act like proffesionals". What a cop out. It's an excuse to act like an idiot. How about "act like a proffesional and maybe you will be paid like a proffesional". It goes both ways people.

Only when announcing that we'll be pushing a headwind.

The 400 ft call out is "Autopilot ON" and "Cut the deck" ;)



So you want to complain to your passengers about your pay by looking like a slob (maybe not you but others have mentioned this)? Is the passenger going to write you a check for the what the airfare should have been so you could get paid more?

No. Keep the dispute between you and management. To your passengers, you are the person who is going to keep them safe or fly their unaccompanied sons/daughters to their destinations safely. They deserve the reassurance. Give management hell and make them sweat, but not your pax.

If there is a reason the American public is ignorant about the plight of the regional airline pilots, blame ALPA's PR department.


Poprocket, RatherBeFishing, FlyJSH -- Bravo!


Regardless of your opinion of the first thread, the last 10 pages of post (particularly the childish ones) seem to indicate that a discussion on professionalism was really needed.

So, for all of you Captains, if on Day 1 of 4, your FO showed up with a wrinkled shirt and pants, would you say something to this person about it? Or would you say something about their technique of telling ATC "SEE YAAAA" in that deep voice -- honestly, I have no idea how to discribe the voice except that it's load, deep, and the syllables are all slurred together.

I was thinking the same thing! Funny stuff!

I can't speak for everyone, but MY attitude is always positive. I knew what I was getting into when I accepted the job.

ALPA's what?! ;)

On a bright note... there was some hope for the pilot career a while back - majors offered money, work rules, retirement, etc.

Nowadays... you have to ask yourself - why spend so much money to become a pilot only to make poverty level wages and almost never be able to repay your loan?

This whole media frenzy about regional airline pilots should be exploited BY INDIVIDUAL regional pilots (since ALPA is impotent and incompetent) to not just educate the public about the plight, but educate prospective future students who just don't know what they're getting into, while this is in the spotlight.

As long as there's a perception of a big payoff later on, you'll have people lining up for the job. No payoff at the end... might as well point them elsewhere to make more money and buy a CE-210 or something to buzz around on weekends for fun.

I'll say it again since you obviously weren't paying attention the first time:

1) I was eating alone and not going to leave my food/bags unattended (remember that rule, or were you asleep in indoc that day).

2) I deliberately chose not to post identifying information for reasons already explained. Re-read the thread.

3) I was not a chart. Also already covered.

I have nothing against the regionals (nor am I a mainline pilot, not that that would change the truth), I have a number of friends who work for the regionals. Yes, everyone has to start somewhere. They should probably be learning to act in a professional manner while they are starting - if now when will they learn it? You chose to enter a career field where professionalism is expected - if you can't handle that then maybe this isn't the career for you.

"Either do or don't do . . . there is no try!"

No, I was not jumpseating. Re-read the post. I WAS EATING!!! I've covered this more than once now - how many times do I have to repeat it. By all means, make me this issue and not the actions of this crew.

You are also trying to change the topic by getting into reading the paper in cruise - I'm not talking about that (though I personally don't do it). Try and stay on topic.

The Moose just shakes his head in dis-belief.

Posting on this board is like that 2nd grade game where you sit in a circle with 10 other people, and whisper "I believe in aliens" to the guy next to you, and by the time it gets back to you it has become "he voted for Obama."