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ERJ135 06-07-2009 12:15 PM

Frozen in flight EGL 4184 (roselawn)
 
YouTube - Air Crash Investigation: Frozen In Flight- part 1/5

MachJ 06-07-2009 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ135 (Post 624426)

Thanks for posting this...hadn't seen it and was looking for something to kill some time.

Ski Patrol 06-07-2009 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ135 (Post 624426)

Good post thanks.

atpwannabe 06-07-2009 02:45 PM

Excellent post!

Question: Do turboprops now take priority after international flights? If not, where are they on the priority list?


atp

The Juice 06-07-2009 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe (Post 624459)
Excellent post!

Question: Do turboprops now take priority after international flights? If not, where are they on the priority list?


atp

Props always go to the back of the line.

Zach 06-07-2009 05:27 PM

I didn't realize this is why Eagle keeps the ATR's down south now. Interesting.

seven6 06-07-2009 07:55 PM

Excellent video. Does anyone know if Stephen Frederick ended up getting fired because of his efforts in educating the public? They mentioned that after the interview on TV he was suspended without pay and nothing more... Did he indeed get the boot? What is he doing today?

The reason I ask is because I am sure he knew this might put an end to his career, yet instead of being selfish (like most are these days) he put his career on the line to educate the public. We need more team players like Stephen these days.

Utah 06-07-2009 09:25 PM

He was fired. Went on to write a book called "Unheeded Warning" about the accident and the many other problems that had plague the ATR concerning ice. Good read as it shows how everyone wanted to blame the pilots, instead of admitting to a design flaw.

Pontius Pilot 06-08-2009 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Zach (Post 624505)
I didn't realize this is why Eagle keeps the ATR's down south now. Interesting.

The icing boots were extended shortly after the accident and the plane can take icing conditions.

It was not all design flaw that brought that flight down. Holding below minimum recommended icing holding speed did not help matters any. It was your usual "series of events" that ultimately led to the crash.

The planes were sent south, but they are back in DFW now, where there is significant icing possibilities. And many operators continued to fly the ATR in extreme northern climates. I think the transfer south was part for public perception and part to make way for RJs.

N118NW 06-08-2009 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Zach (Post 624505)
I didn't realize this is why Eagle keeps the ATR's down south now. Interesting.

Same reason why Cape Air keeps their ATR in Guam. It didn't do too well in New England.


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