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Old 06-07-2009 | 12:15 PM
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YouTube - Air Crash Investigation: Frozen In Flight- part 1/5
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Old 06-07-2009 | 01:01 PM
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Thanks for posting this...hadn't seen it and was looking for something to kill some time.
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Old 06-07-2009 | 02:04 PM
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Good post thanks.
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Old 06-07-2009 | 02:45 PM
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Excellent post!

Question: Do turboprops now take priority after international flights? If not, where are they on the priority list?


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Old 06-07-2009 | 05:10 PM
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Excellent post!

Question: Do turboprops now take priority after international flights? If not, where are they on the priority list?


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Old 06-07-2009 | 05:27 PM
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I didn't realize this is why Eagle keeps the ATR's down south now. Interesting.
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Old 06-07-2009 | 07:55 PM
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Excellent video. Does anyone know if Stephen Frederick ended up getting fired because of his efforts in educating the public? They mentioned that after the interview on TV he was suspended without pay and nothing more... Did he indeed get the boot? What is he doing today?

The reason I ask is because I am sure he knew this might put an end to his career, yet instead of being selfish (like most are these days) he put his career on the line to educate the public. We need more team players like Stephen these days.
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Old 06-07-2009 | 09:25 PM
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He was fired. Went on to write a book called "Unheeded Warning" about the accident and the many other problems that had plague the ATR concerning ice. Good read as it shows how everyone wanted to blame the pilots, instead of admitting to a design flaw.

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Old 06-08-2009 | 07:19 AM
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I didn't realize this is why Eagle keeps the ATR's down south now. Interesting.
The icing boots were extended shortly after the accident and the plane can take icing conditions.

It was not all design flaw that brought that flight down. Holding below minimum recommended icing holding speed did not help matters any. It was your usual "series of events" that ultimately led to the crash.

The planes were sent south, but they are back in DFW now, where there is significant icing possibilities. And many operators continued to fly the ATR in extreme northern climates. I think the transfer south was part for public perception and part to make way for RJs.
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Old 06-08-2009 | 07:44 AM
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I didn't realize this is why Eagle keeps the ATR's down south now. Interesting.
Same reason why Cape Air keeps their ATR in Guam. It didn't do too well in New England.
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