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Great Cornholio 06-10-2009 03:36 PM

96% of TSA pilots vote YES to strike
 
The strike authorization vote ended today. 96% voted yes. The percentage of eligible voters that actually voted to be announced at a later time.

TPROP4ever 06-10-2009 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Great Cornholio (Post 626148)
The strike authorization vote ended today. 96% voted yes. The percentage of eligible voters that actually voted to be announced at a later time.

thats 96% of the cast ballots, right??

The Juice 06-10-2009 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Great Cornholio (Post 626148)
The strike authorization vote ended today. 96% voted yes. The percentage of eligible voters that actually voted to be announced at a later time.

Go talk to the Pinnacle pilots and see what happens next..bupkis

250 or point 65 06-10-2009 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 626150)
Go talk to the Pinnacle pilots and see what happens next..bupkis

If you roll over...

TPROP4ever 06-10-2009 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 626151)
If you roll over...

whats the next step for you guys???

cencal83406 06-10-2009 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 626151)
If you roll over...

I'm confused by this. We're bound by the RLA to wait until the cooling off period..... other than that, we follow our FOM and CFM by the book, don't cut any corners, write up any discrepancies, and just generally fly professionally (safe)....

atooraya 06-10-2009 03:59 PM

management cares 0%

ExperimentalAB 06-10-2009 03:59 PM

Congrats guys...Love the show of unity!

ExperimentalAB 06-10-2009 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 626166)
management cares 0%

That's fine.

higney85 06-10-2009 04:20 PM

Y'all can share our STFD motto!

ToiletDuck 06-10-2009 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 626150)
Go talk to the Pinnacle pilots and see what happens next..bupkis

I don't believe they voted to actually strike. They just took a vote to authorize a strike should the time come later down the line.

250 or point 65 06-10-2009 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 626203)
I don't believe they voted to actually strike. They just took a vote to authorize a strike should the time come later down the line.

uhhhhhhhhhh

ToiletDuck 06-10-2009 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 626206)
uhhhhhhhhhh


WASHINGTON, Dec. 3 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Pinnacle Airlines pilots, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), and flying for Northwest Airlink and Delta Connection, showed their unity and resolve by voting to authorize their elected union representatives to conduct a lawful withdrawal of service if contract talks with management do not result in an agreement and both sides are released to economic self-help by the National Mediation Board.
Like I said I don't think it was as strike vote but a vote to give the union the ability to strike should it come down to it.

Aviation Today :: ALPA's Northwest Airlink and Delta Connection PCL Pilots Vote Overwhelmingly to Authorize Strike

Airsupport 06-10-2009 05:39 PM

this strike vote means nothing. pinnacle had a 99% strike vote and we are still here, not able to strike, and waiting on a contract. get in line.

bryris 06-10-2009 05:42 PM

Didn't the MEC tell those who didn't want it not to vote at all, rather than voting NO?

Positive_Rate 06-10-2009 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 626218)
this strike vote means nothing. pinnacle had a 99% strike vote and we are still here, not able to strike, and waiting on a contract. get in line.

Easy, killer....

Purpleanga 06-10-2009 06:06 PM

What would it take to be released for self help? I like the percentage but I sincerely doubt Huals cares about these results. Probably not a surprise for him.

skippy 06-10-2009 06:10 PM

to all the waterski brothers and sisters-- i salute those who voted for a strike-- it is a step in the right direction, and those wussies that didnt, benefit from the people who hold the line and for that you are total cowards.


SKIPPY- just calling it like i see it

Congrats





Fellow Pilots,

I know many of you are anxious to know the result of the Strike Authorization Ballot which concluded today. The results were
independently certified and of the eligible Trans States pilots who responded to the strike authorization ballot, nearly 96% authorized
the Trans States MEC to call for a lawful withdrawal of services. An overwhelming majority of pilots have voiced their support for
the negotiating committee and their objective to obtain a fair and equitable contract that meets the expectations of this pilot group.
It also demonstrates to management clearly and loudly our unity and resolve to conclude these negotiations one way or another.

Now more than ever we must remain vigilant in our focus, unwavering in our resolve, knowledgeable about the mediation process, and
informed about our contract negotiations. It is important to remember we have not exhausted all phases of Section 6 negotiations
and a release to self-help has not been granted. However, this vote goes a long way in showing our solidarity in achieving improvements
to our contract that are both deserved and long overdue

winglet 06-10-2009 06:18 PM

Good Luck Water Skiers!

Winglet

Speedbird172 06-10-2009 06:47 PM

Good luck guys and gals. I hope this picks up some steam and gets someone's attention (cough media/public etc cough) for the better. Maybe, just maybe between all the news and public attention lately and now this, things will start to shift in a different direction. Pipe dream maybe but it's nice to be optimistic.

Great Cornholio 06-10-2009 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 626232)
What would it take to be released for self help? I like the percentage but I sincerely doubt Huals cares about these results. Probably not a surprise for him.

In order to get released the mediator has to decide that negotiations have come to an impasse. Then the NMB would have to agree and start the 30 day cooling off period. Any strike (if it came to that) would still be a few months away at the shortest.

250 or point 65 06-10-2009 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 626212)
Like I said I don't think it was as strike vote but a vote to give the union the ability to strike should it come down to it.

I think this is the most appropriate I've ever heard of to use this expression:

"6 of one, half dozen of the other"

It's not as if we are going to have another "strike vote". This gives the MEC the ability to call a strike when it is lawful to do so.

F9er 06-10-2009 07:21 PM

Just curious....because Gojet is under the same management group, if TSA decided to strike couldn't they just give all the flying to Gojet? Or even give an ultimatem and move all the flying to Gojet?

DryMotorBoatin 06-10-2009 07:26 PM

If we do go on strike I hope we are prepared in the megaphone-enhanced excitement area. Got to get some real chants goin. Get the crowd real worked up.

theres no doubt TSA is a bottomfeeder but the pilot group is as good as it gets anywhere. ive never been ashamed to call myself a waterskier furloughed or not. thanks guys.

250 or point 65 06-10-2009 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by F9er (Post 626285)
Just curious....because Gojet is under the same management group, if TSA decided to strike couldn't they just give all the flying to Gojet? Or even give an ultimatem and move all the flying to Gojet?


This isn't really up in the air. It WILL happen, and G7 pilots will either fly it or be fired. Of course, they do not have the crews or the planes to take over 100% of it. It will only be a small portion, but enough to add them to the scab list and still be sucking out of Hulas' wallet.

Purpleanga 06-10-2009 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by F9er (Post 626285)
Just curious....because Gojet is under the same management group, if TSA decided to strike couldn't they just give all the flying to Gojet? Or even give an ultimatem and move all the flying to Gojet?

They've been planning the above for a long time. I just don't see how management can settle this without some kind of ultimatum, it's about Gojet and the job security at this point.

CaptainCarl 06-11-2009 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 626318)
This isn't really up in the air. It WILL happen, and G7 pilots will either fly it or be fired. Of course, they do not have the crews or the planes to take over 100% of it. It will only be a small portion, but enough to add them to the scab list and still be sucking out of Hulas' wallet.

If we do end up striking, it will certainly show GoJet's true colors. I still have a shred of hope for them to get behind us without trying to drive a knife in at the same time. Only time will tell.

JayHub 06-11-2009 06:49 AM

Are new airplanes still being delivered to Gojet?

250 or point 65 06-11-2009 07:15 AM

i think there's two more on their way in the next couple months. beyond that is up in the air right now.

stoki 06-11-2009 07:20 AM

When was the last time any carrier here in the U.S has gone on strike?

Good luck guys, but I can see management all sitting around a couple of beers laughing this off... pilots trying to strike in the U.S.

But if you guys pull it off, more power to you. Would be nice to see for a change.

Turboprop 06-11-2009 07:32 AM

ouch! good luck to all of them!

Weisguy 06-11-2009 07:35 AM

NWA Struke
 
I believe Northwest Pilots went on strike some years back.

bryris 06-11-2009 08:37 AM

Some strike information:

Airline Strikes Under the RLA

250 or point 65 06-11-2009 08:53 AM

Does anyone have any information on how many of those strikes resulted in the airline shutting its doors?

(just for the "Hulas will just shut the doors if we strike" crowd)

proav8r 06-11-2009 09:32 AM

whats up with the 4% that voted no?

Copperhed51 06-11-2009 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by proav8r (Post 626645)
whats up with the 4% that voted no?

My guess would be it's the old senior guys that are comfortable and don't want to rock the boat right before they retire. Hard to say who it really was though.

DryMotorBoatin 06-11-2009 09:59 AM

I have a question. If TSA goes on strike and gojet stands behind us. Does that mean we also have the full support of St. Louis area gas station workers? They are the same union right?

TPROP4ever 06-11-2009 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 626671)
I have a question. If TSA goes on strike and gojet stands behind us. Does that mean we also have the full support of St. Louis area gas station workers? They are the same union right?

Great way to make them want to go out and help your cause....:eek:

JayHub 06-11-2009 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 626491)
i think there's two more on their way in the next couple months. beyond that is up in the air right now.

Is it up in the air because if TSA strike Gojet won't be able to secure the funding? Isn't the immediate growth of G7 dependent on the prosperity of TSA? If this is the case, shouldn't TSA have Hulas over a barrel?

DryMotorBoatin 06-11-2009 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by JayHub (Post 626685)
Isn't the immediate growth of G7 dependent on the prosperity of TSA? If this is the case, shouldn't TSA have Hulas over a barrel?

First, I don't know how much longer Gojets depends on TSA for money. At one time yes but I think its fleeting. Second, doesn't it make you feel all warm inside to know that TSA's hard work and effort is benefiting somebody else who is taking work away from us?


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