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I have been on reserve and have not worked for 3 weeks.
I am just about rested enough to fly a trip, no more than 4 legs of course:p |
Originally Posted by The Juice
(Post 626566)
I have been on reserve and have not worked for 3 weeks.
I am just about rested enough to fly a trip, no more than 4 legs of course:p If I can hang on to my job in the fall, I will be looking at reserve :(, the lack of pay will kill me, but the free time might be nice :) |
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
(Post 626574)
If I can hang on to my job in the fall, I will be looking at reserve :(, the lack of pay will kill me, but the free time might be nice :)
Anyway, back on topic |
Being the guy who can bid for his choice of reserve lines, I don't mind it. I expect to earn close to 300 per hour this month. In April, it was 600 ;)
(for those who cant figure that out, i bid reserve lines that never get called) |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 626639)
Being the guy who can bid for his choice of reserve lines, I don't mind it. I expect to earn close to 300 per hour this month. In April, it was 600 ;)
(for those who cant figure that out, i bid reserve lines that never get called) |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 626487)
I have not had any side effects...other than a good night's sleep. But you need 8 hours from the time you take the pill. Otherwise you will be groggy.
I'm not certain about FAA legality for melotonin. It's a supplement, so I'm not sure if they have rules about that, or would care. |
Originally Posted by TheBills
(Post 626482)
Are there any side effects with this? Am i going to pee myself in my sleep because im so tired. I heard a flight attendant on the bus talk about that cause she had used ambian for the first time, and that was her experience. Where do I get it?
BTW, I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on TV. |
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
(Post 626186)
I am not saying there are not cases where pilots truly are fatigued but increasing our rest will have a very very negative effect on our QOL. Our trips will be less productive, and our days off will go down. I think the overall lifestyle and pay has more to do with feeling rundown than an actual duty day. If we were paid more we would not have to fly close to 100hrs to pay the bills and have some extra cash (for those that don't need to fly 100hrs, your lucky, living in Hoboken, NJ and paying off school loans is a KILLER)
anyway I just wanted to point out that more rest is not necessarily the solution............. discuss Well my friend, that might be the case for the EWR flying, but here in IAH we have overnights in Mexico that are exactly 8hrs with a van ride of 45 mins each way. By the time you get into your hotel, change, brush your teeth and hit the sack you might have 5 hours of sleep if you're lucky. Also, I thought you were ALPA, or are you not anymore? Mr Wykoff, might be a little angry at you considering that he's been pushing for reform for many years now and put out an excellent guide in the ALPA magazine a couple of months back. It should also be noted that the NTSB disagrees with your assessment, the reason why the rule needs to be changed from 8 to 10 is to assure that there are actually 8 hours available for rest, being in the van does not count, being at the airport does not count either. You're a lot younger than the majority of us at XJT, so of course you probably can do with a lot less sleep than some of us, and still be able to operate your aircraft safely. I have to say Joe, I'm a bit disappointed to see you posting stuff like this. Safety should always be first, above all, including QOL and days off (which I also like), and clearly the NTSB and even our own union have compiled enough data to support reform. |
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
(Post 626186)
I am not saying there are not cases where pilots truly are fatigued but increasing our rest will have a very very negative effect on our QOL. Our trips will be less productive, and our days off will go down. I think the overall lifestyle and pay has more to do with feeling rundown than an actual duty day. If we were paid more we would not have to fly close to 100hrs to pay the bills and have some extra cash (for those that don't need to fly 100hrs, your lucky, living in Hoboken, NJ and paying off school loans is a KILLER)
anyway I just wanted to point out that more rest is not neccesarly the solution............. discuss If you don't have a safety sensitive job, don't sleep at all, pull all nighters thats cool. Enjoy aging in dog years, and taking years off your life. But when your a 121 pilot it has nothing to do with what you want, it has everything to do with the safety of the pax in back. Many people operate fine on 3-4 or 5 hours of sleep, i did for many years. But is it safe? It depends on the person. People smarter than pilots (doctors) tend to think that 5 hours of sleep is not a sustainable lifestyle. Can you get away with it for a few years? Sure. But i have seen many bright eyed 21 year old FO's looking 30+ after only 2 or 3 years in the airlines. And that 80 year old looking mainline pilot, he's about 55. |
Originally Posted by BIRDIE
(Post 626770)
Yea, melatonin works. Its not a drug and it is natural. It is NOT AMBIEN. There is a side affect, however, at least for me... strange dreams. I can't say melatonin is the reason... I suspect a connection based on experience/
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