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FlyingPirate 06-11-2009 08:33 AM

CRJ turbulence damage in MEM
 
I just saw something on the news about a CRJ suffering damage from turbulence with injuries onboard. It might still be in the air they said its landing in MEM.

ehaeckercfi 06-11-2009 08:45 AM

Landed safely no serious injuries.

PinnacleFO 06-11-2009 08:47 AM

call cnn!!!!

TPROP4ever 06-11-2009 08:55 AM

sure call CNN, and they will be sure to scare the public by saying your lack of proper training led to an encounter with turbulence....just remember when it comes to the media, its always your fault, afterall your just a regional pilot.....CaNNt get a story right:eek:

Good job to the pilots safely landing a damaged aircraft....

PinnacleFO 06-11-2009 09:12 AM

But don't you want to hear Wolf Blitzer ask if this plane has a co pilot?

NoBeta 06-11-2009 09:36 AM

Good for them getting the bird safely on the ground :D

cencal83406 06-11-2009 09:40 AM

FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > Pinnacle Airlines, Inc. D/B/A Northwest Airlink #2919 > 11-Jun-2009 > KDTW-KMEM

BIRDIE 06-11-2009 09:42 AM

Oooppss... that's not working.. maybe we should go west a little first. Been there done that.

B00sted 06-11-2009 09:45 AM

Looks like they flew right into that cell..........I really hope that radar on flightaware is off.

andy171773 06-11-2009 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by B00sted (Post 626661)
Looks like they flew right into that cell..........I really hope that radar on flightaware is off.

I don't, the airlines could use two fewer pilots :)

Dashdog 06-11-2009 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by B00sted (Post 626661)
Looks like they flew right into that cell..........I really hope that radar on flightaware is off.

The radar you see on flightaware is the current radar image. In other words, it will not show the radar that was present when the flight took place. There is no way to tell on flightaware what weather any given flight flew through.

FlyingPirate 06-11-2009 10:11 AM

Anyone know what kind of damage the plane suffered?

shfo 06-11-2009 10:12 AM

Actually they have updated it and it shows the radar image as the flight was in the air. As you can see in this flight from four days ago it just shows the precip over south Lake Michigan. FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > Pinnacle Airlines, Inc. D/B/A Northwest Airlink #2921

B00sted 06-11-2009 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Dashdog (Post 626669)
The radar you see on flightaware is the current radar image. In other words, it will not show the radar that was present when the flight took place. There is no way to tell on flightaware what weather any given flight flew through.

You are incorrect. Look at past flights..........

seafeye 06-11-2009 10:18 AM

Why didn't the pilots push the turbulance button?
It's right in front of them.

Phuz 06-11-2009 10:20 AM

Yea flightaware is pretty neat in that it does show you what weather was present for a particular flight in the past. You can lookup past flights for i think 3 months if you sign-up (free) - and it will show you the actual weather/groundtrack for all of them.

I've checked out some of my own flights after the fact, and found that it gives a pretty accurate depiction of what type of weather a flight experienced.

BoredwLife 06-11-2009 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by BIRDIE (Post 626658)
Oooppss... that's not working.. maybe we should go west a little first. Been there done that.


If the radar image was the weather at the time of the flight, west looked nice to begin with. Time to write off that IPhone as a work expense.

BIRDIE 06-11-2009 10:29 AM

i wondered about the flightaware weather depiction. obviously it can't show current weather at each moment of flight. it has to take a single picture at a single moment in time, right? so then i think the weather picture is either at the departure time or arrival time, most likely the arrival time. we can't know exactly what the crew was looking at.

BIRDIE 06-11-2009 11:16 AM

anyway, i'm sure the crew made the right moves

thrustsetrj200 06-11-2009 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by B00sted (Post 626688)
You are incorrect. Look at past flights..........

The radar picture on Flightaware definitely takes a shot of the current weather at the time of flight. Just like someone said it probably takes the shot at the beginning or end of the flight. Maybe somewhere in between but it definitely taken during the flight.
I would love to see pics of the RJ that took the damage. It looks like they went thru that nasty red at some point.

mooney 06-11-2009 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingPirate (Post 626683)
Anyone know what kind of damage the plane suffered?


None. After the paramedics checked out the pax and the plane, continued to its destination.

mooney 06-11-2009 02:03 PM

correction now the local news is saying they switched planes, fwiw.

afterburn81 06-11-2009 02:48 PM

Still. Gotta be scary given the fate of the Air France accident. I can imagine what was going through everyone's mind.

Outlaw2097 06-11-2009 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 626793)
None. After the paramedics checked out the pax and the plane, continued to its destination.

$5 says in a week a couple of pax will have 'emotional damage' and there will be a suit.

$5 also says the suit will be thrown out in a month or two.

Inbluskyz 06-11-2009 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200 (Post 626781)
The radar picture on Flightaware definitely takes a shot of the current weather at the time of flight. Just like someone said it probably takes the shot at the beginning or end of the flight. Maybe somewhere in between but it definitely taken during the flight.
I would love to see pics of the RJ that took the damage. It looks like they went thru that nasty red at some point.

I just looked at Flightaware again and it shows the radar returns in a different position. Not much of a change but it is definitely different.

B00sted 06-11-2009 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Inbluskyz (Post 626875)
I just looked at Flightaware again and it shows the radar returns in a different position. Not much of a change but it is definitely different.


Your right. Interesting.

ImEbee 06-11-2009 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 626793)
None. After the paramedics checked out the pax and the plane, continued to its destination.

Well as long as the paramedics checked out the plane...:D:D

Relic01 06-11-2009 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 626666)
I don't, the airlines could use two fewer pilots :)

Don't find any humor in this callous statement. People like you continue to amaze me everyday.:mad:

ToiletDuck 06-11-2009 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Outlaw2097 (Post 626872)
$5 says in a week a couple of pax will have 'emotional damage' and there will be a suit.

$5 also says the suit will be thrown out in a month or two.

$10 says someone will experience "Pain radiating from their neck".

ToiletDuck 06-11-2009 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 626666)
I don't, the airlines could use two fewer pilots :)

Yea I don't find anything amusing about this either.... Party foul.

jayray2 06-11-2009 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 626693)
Why didn't the pilots push the turbulance button?
It's right in front of them.

I want to thank you for this post. This definitely wins the award for the funniest post of the day. Hilarious. Good stuff.

bertengineer 06-12-2009 05:23 AM


I would have went to the left around the storm. Must have been a former freight pilot penetrating the line. LOL

Funny how right after they went throught the line they diverted to KMEM.

norskman2 06-12-2009 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 626617)
sure call CNN, and they will be sure to scare the public by saying your lack of proper training led to an encounter with turbulence....just remember when it comes to the media, its always your fault, afterall your just a regional pilot.....CaNNt get a story right:eek:

Funny...but you guys didn't seem to complain about CNN's coverage about the poor pay and working conditions at the regionals, or their story about Gulfstream Academy, did you?

TPROP4ever 06-12-2009 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by norskman2 (Post 627198)
Funny...but you guys didn't seem to complain about CNN's coverage about the poor pay and working conditions at the regionals, or their story about Gulfstream Academy, did you?

Your post makes no sense because actually we did complain, it was just more fear mongering, but hey they obviously didnt want to tell the real story, that 3M with low time pilots has an impecable safety record...but hey keep up the bashing, if it makes you feel bigger in your own little barbie jet with your auto pilot on, we'll keep flying while you keep complaining:cool:

20kDoLlOrPilot 06-12-2009 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 626693)
Why didn't the pilots push the turbulance button?
It's right in front of them.

haha....i love that button

wizepilot 06-12-2009 07:49 PM

I'll bet that plane, after it came through the weather, was the cleanest it's ever been after coming from the factory. EXCEPT for the skid marks on the seat cushions!

ExperimentalAB 06-12-2009 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by wizepilot (Post 627768)
I'll bet that plane, after it came through the weather, was the cleanest it's ever been after coming from the factory. EXCEPT for the skid marks on the seat cushions!

Ewww...LoL

PILOTGUY 06-14-2009 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Relic01 (Post 626956)
Don't find any humor in this callous statement. People like you continue to amaze me everyday.:mad:

Maybe you should rethink that thought. IF two pilots INTENTIONALLY flew into a cell that caused structural damage, they might need to reevaluate their career decisions. IF they did intentionally fly into it, then maybe they should have their career decisions made for them, since they obviously would not be capable of making the correct on themselves. It would have made an additional news story had my family or myself be on that airplane.

The Dude Abides 06-14-2009 08:52 AM

How good is the radar in the RJ? I took a lightning strike last year and the radar was painting nothing but green all around us.

xtreme 06-14-2009 09:04 AM

Radar is ok, could be better. I hear people complaining about it all the time. The radar won't paint a building thunderstorm....no precip yet.


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