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-   -   CAL dropping 9L rumors??? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/41011-cal-dropping-9l-rumors.html)

dashtrash300 06-13-2009 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 628227)
No, I am a FedEx Captain making $238/hr. I just like slumming it down here with you lowly poor regional trash.

(Yes I work for Colgan, that is why I use "we" when speaking of Colgan)
Probably would have been a lot funnier if you said you were an ABX Air captain making $239 an hour. ;)

ToiletDuck 06-13-2009 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by av8sean (Post 628053)
The other rumor is the Colgan Q400 makes almost double the revenue of an expressjet E145 for about half the cost. I've heard they actually want to get more.
1. It depends on the routes. Over a longer route the Q becomes less and less efficient.

2. CAL did want more Qs. I don't know if they still do or not. CAL went to Republic wanting them to place a bid to fly 12 Qs for them but the company didn't find it financially feasible.

The Juice 06-13-2009 08:45 PM
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 628245)
1. It depends on the routes. Over a longer route the Q becomes less and less efficient.

2. CAL did want more Qs. I don't know if they still do or not. CAL went to Republic wanting them to place a bid to fly 12 Qs for them but the company didn't find it financially feasible.
So CAL wanted Republic to fly Q's? Where was Republic going to get these Q's? Colgan's Q options were available to any airline to codeshare with and CAL wanted the first 15 (which they got) and then they signed for 15 more (next year)...and they signed for first option for Q's 46-60. Q's 31-45 are still available to any airline.

Bottom line is cost cost cost. Q's are the best within 400 miles as you mentioned. Airlines are going to have to find any and all ways to save a buck with the new era in aviation which is on the way.

JoeyMeatballs 06-13-2009 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 628261)
So CAL wanted Republic to fly Q's? Where was Republic going to get these Q's? Colgan's Q options were available to any airline to codeshare with and CAL wanted the first 15 (which they got) and then they signed for 15 more (next year)...and they signed for first option for Q's 46-60. Q's 31-45 are still available to any airline.

Bottom line is cost cost cost. Q's are the best within 400 miles as you mentioned. Airlines are going to have to find any and all ways to save a buck with the new era in aviation which is on the way.
I am not sure why CAL would want CHQ to fly these either

The Juice 06-13-2009 08:51 PM
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 628265)
I am not sure why CAL would want CHQ to fly these either
CHQ and CAL is a WHOLE other story, isn't it?

aussieflyboy 06-13-2009 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 628225)
I call bullshyt.

Green on Green?
Green on Green doesn't prevent two newbies to their seat from FLYING together. It just prevents certain operations when two newbies are flying together.

My first trip off IOE was with a CA who was on his first trip off upgrade OE. It happens...

Zapata 06-13-2009 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 628135)
This has always been a misconception. ValuJet did not change their name to AirTran. They merged with the smaller company AirTran for their name.

So your logic would suggest Colgan would merge with Big Sky, to be called Big Sky.

Kind of how Comair changed their name to....wait....they still are Comair.
Don't kid yourself. Effectively, it's still a name change primarily for the sake of a name change.

ZDub 06-14-2009 06:35 AM
Originally Posted by The Far Sides (Post 628087)
FPD = Fargo Police Department, Flame Photometric Detector?

CPA = Certified Public Accountant...I couldn't even find it by googling it.

I'm going to start a movement against GUATNU (Geeks Using Acronyms That Nobody Understands).
I want you to know that I just nosed my coffee. Hear hear!!! Motion seconded. While we're at it, can we take LOL, LMAO, and all of thier variants out to the back 40 and give them two in the hat?

ZDub 06-14-2009 06:39 AM
Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 628277)
Green on Green doesn't prevent two newbies to their seat from FLYING together. It just prevents certain operations when two newbies are flying together.

My first trip off IOE was with a CA who was on his first trip off upgrade OE. It happens...
It shouldn't.

beeker 06-14-2009 06:48 AM
Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 628225)
I call bullshyt.

Green on Green?
You can get waivers for green on green. They got them at CommutAir when they transitioned from 1900's to DHC8. My first trip, after IOE, in the Dash was with an FO, who was a new hire, with 45-50 hours in the plane. Total time in the plane between the two of us that day was about 60 hours or so.


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