Many people have this shortsighted view on this type of stuff. They feel that if its not currently or previously affecting them, then they don't care. But circumstances can change quickly. Not to mention that there may be other people who are affected by these things and that everyone should strive to make their contract better as a whole even if it doesn't do much for you at the time.

Yeah, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Kinda like at our shop with the issues that concerned PMR's/no CCS, eh?

Where the heck you been at the other place. Just not the same reading the politics section with you busting fly's cajones ;)

Yeah, I picked up on that. I was just making it obvious just in case some people were not quite sharp enough to get it.

Yeah, SL and I fought a losing battle on that one, sorry it didn't turn out better. Although, I still think we will eventually get something out of those two group grievances.

I've been on vacation. I go back on Sunday so I thought I would warm up on TD for a couple of days here before I get back to the pipe on my first overnight.;)

You don't have to apologize nor rehash a bunch of dirty, crappy water that passed under the bridge.

But here's a few rhetorical, but valid questions. Say there FINALLY does come a resolution to a blatant contract violation that went on for over a year. The company finally pulls it's head from it's rectum and says, "OK former Delcon/Branded pilots, since we violated the contract on you for over a year with your weak d1cked MEC's blessing, we're going to award you (insert whatever amount) of pay credit for the PITA factor we put you through".

If it is in the form an hourly value, what will that hourly amount get paid out at? For the displaced folks, will it be at the rate at which the contract was violated against them, or their CURRENT rate? Sure, SOME money will be better than NO money. But if it's at current rate, not the rate at which the violation occurred, that's just more salt on the 48%ish wound, you think?

Will the pilots on unpaid vacation get a pay out if that's the resolution?

Since we're talking about work rules, how much time off did that vacation score you with NO impact on your pay guarantee? Not only days off due to trip touch, but TOTAL days off?

The last time BD mentioned to me what a possible resolution may be (a couple of months ago), it did not include any monetary compensation. It was in the form of work rule changes. Everyone benefits from it this way.

22 days off with minimum guarantee intact.

Thats better than nothing, I guess.

But oh, the sweet irony. We like to (and rightfully so) talk about non unionized carriers riding the coat tails of unionized shops because it helps them out.

Now, our pilot group, of which many had NO freaking clue about the issues with that grievance, let alone it even existed, will get to ride OUR coat tails.

You're welcome COEX guys!