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-   -   Midwest is to be owned by RAH. (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/41304-midwest-owned-rah.html)

johnso29 06-26-2009 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 635696)
I'll tell you that you don't have work rules. Your reserves get a minimum of 4 hours per day. You get block or better and a monthly guarantee of 75 hours. Other than that you have no work rules. You have no cancellation pay, trip regs, or duty regs. If a pilot comes in on his/her day off, he/she gets 4 hours minimum on top of guarantee if gurantee is not broke. Did I miss anything? That's about the extent of your work rules. I'm not sure how you guys are getting so much time other than working like *****s and cashing in PDO's.
Yeah, but no jr manning!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

ToiletDuck 06-26-2009 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 635712)
Yeah, but no jr manning!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Junior manning would cost me more money than cancellation pay would ever be worth. I've only had one flight cancel that I wasn't paid for.

xtreme 06-26-2009 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 635715)
Junior manning would cost me more money than cancellation pay would ever be worth. I've only had one flight cancel that I wasn't paid for.
K so are you seriously saying the company pays you outside of the contract? If so, that sounds like an accounting mistake and if you are taking advantage of it, wouldn't that be considered fraud?

You guys forgot 75% deadhead pay!

ToiletDuck 06-26-2009 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by xtreme (Post 635734)
K so are you seriously saying the company pays you outside of the contract? If so, that sounds like an accounting mistake and if you are taking advantage of it, wouldn't that be considered fraud?

You guys forgot 75% deadhead pay!
No our contract has cancellation pay so I was paid for my canceled flight. I haven't DHD but 2 or 3 times within the past two years so they can keep that one too if it means things like no junior manning and a higher $ per hour further on.

Nevets 06-26-2009 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 635693)
Who says we don't have work rules? I flew 916hrs last year but was paid for over 1020hrs and that's before I cashed in sick time.
$37/hr X 1020 hrs = $37740, not $45k.

DLAJ77 06-27-2009 05:40 AM
Its guys like TD that bedford loves. Im sure your peers would love to hear your thoughts on your current work rules. Heck cancellation pay who needs that. Might as well keep the 75% DH pay, and who needs rigs and a good commuter policy and the list goes on and on. Typical brainwashed RAH pilot that managemnt loves and is why all of us have little faith in you actually getting a REAL contract!!

fly safe

3XLoser 06-27-2009 08:42 AM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 635800)
$37/hr X 1020 hrs = $37740, not $45k.
$37/hr is lower than my starting pay at Midwest nine years ago! Republic pilots could use their new colleagues at Midwest and Frontier to get a respectable contract.

GoBlue 06-27-2009 08:55 AM
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 635715)
Junior manning would cost me more money than cancellation pay would ever be worth. I've only had one flight cancel that I wasn't paid for.

I'm glad you have only had one flight cancel in your airline career, I have lost over 11 hours of pay this month on cancellations. Ask the Atlanta guys doing the Delta Shuttle if they would like cancellation pay. Several of our wonderful outstation bases deadhead on nearly every trip. Its great that we don't have Jr. manning, but our work rules do suck and that NEEDS to be addressed in the contract.

forumname 06-27-2009 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 635800)
$37/hr X 1020 hrs = $37740, not $45k.
That's going on the assumption he's maxed out on the payscale, NOT year 2 or 3. Granted, not much of a difference, but still.

johnso29 06-27-2009 09:29 AM
Originally Posted by forumname (Post 635900)
That's going on the assumption he's maxed out on the payscale, NOT year 2 or 3. Granted, not much of a difference, but still.
It just further amplifies the point.


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