Your Airlines Sick-Call Policy
07-07-2009, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Just out of curiosity, what is a "missed trip" and how is it different from a normal sick call? Every time I call in sick, I miss the trip in question...so three sick calls in 12 months is termination???
Also, one sick call can be extended up to 14 consecutive days.
07-07-2009, 08:47 PM
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ASA gives occurrences for any absence unless you fill out FMLA paperwork which usually requires a doctor's visit. The official policy is 3 in 6 mos or 4 in 12 mos = verbal warning. 4 in 6 or 5 in 12 = written warning. 5 in 6 or 6 in 12 = threat of termination if any new occurrences come up in the next 12 months.
Now, if you show up with your ALPA rep and have valid reasons (doctor excuse or not), none of the above is enforceable.
Now, if you show up with your ALPA rep and have valid reasons (doctor excuse or not), none of the above is enforceable.
07-11-2009, 04:51 AM
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Has it occurred to any of you that this site is searchable by google (no password required to browse) and that the media may be trolling here to dig dirt about "those unsafe regionals". Think about that before you start cutting/pasting company manuals (Nevets) and talking about how your company punishes you for calling in sick.
07-11-2009, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
ASA gives occurrences for any absence unless you fill out FMLA paperwork which usually requires a doctor's visit. The official policy is 3 in 6 mos or 4 in 12 mos = verbal warning. 4 in 6 or 5 in 12 = written warning. 5 in 6 or 6 in 12 = threat of termination if any new occurrences come up in the next 12 months.
Now, if you show up with your ALPA rep and have valid reasons (doctor excuse or not), none of the above is enforceable.
Now, if you show up with your ALPA rep and have valid reasons (doctor excuse or not), none of the above is enforceable.
07-11-2009, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
None of ASA's attendance policy is enforceable, period. No ASA pilot has EVER been fired for calling in sick.
07-11-2009, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
Now, if you show up with your ALPA rep and have valid reasons (doctor excuse or not), none of the above is enforceable.
07-11-2009, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
I got my 4th in 12 mo. while on probation - the union does not defend us while on probation. But generally, I agree, there's no way they can enforce the policy.
Correct, most airline sick policies are no longer enforcable. HIPPA and federal court decisions have made it almost impossible to actually fire somebody for being sick.
They have to document a "pattern of abuse," have held counseling sessions to try and mediate the problem, and you have to have run completely out of time in your sick bank.
Will they fire you, yes. When you sue in court you will get your job back, with lost wages.
07-11-2009, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
RAH... 4 gets you a call and a copy of the policy sent certified. 7 gets you suspended, 8 shows you the door.
get a lawyer... they can't enforce that type of policy. It has to be done on a case by case basis, the person has to be out of all sick time, they have to have been deemed a sick time abuser by showing a demonstrated pattern of calling in sick at certain times.... always sick on holidays, always sick on birthdays, always sick the last two day sequence of the month, and the first two day sequence of the next month.... there HAS to be a pattern to be a sick time abuser.
a flat blanket policy like that one is just asking for a lawsuit.
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