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grdprox 07-08-2009 03:31 PM

West coast base for RAH!!
 
I'm the lasssstt person to start rumors but according to a very reliable source, because of the success with RAH doing Spokane routes and a downsize of the 73 lift for United in the fall, they (United) is looking at expanding more west coast routes with RAH and a possible SFO domicile is in the works. They even said they (RAH) has been recruiting in LA for FA's already. Can any of you RAH guys validate this?

EDIT: Just realized this was posted in the wrong section. Move it if will be.

hockeypilot44 07-08-2009 03:32 PM

Why are you excited about this?

grdprox 07-08-2009 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 641622)
Why are you excited about this?

Why, should I be?

BoredwLife 07-08-2009 03:35 PM

Why is this posted in the Majors section? RAH is a disease regional and it should stay in the other section.

250 or point 65 07-08-2009 03:47 PM

This is the the same guy with a "Guppy Killer" sticker on his flight kit.

"HOORAY! We're replacing more mainline jobs!"

The Juice 07-08-2009 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by BoredwLife (Post 641625)
Why is this posted in the Majors section? RAH is a disease regional and it should stay in the other section.

Be careful what you say about RAH. They will buy you and outsource you.

grdprox 07-08-2009 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 641631)
This is the the same guy with a "Guppy Killer" sticker on his flight kit.

"HOORAY! We're replacing more mainline jobs!"

Who are you talking about? Who had a sticker like that?

250 or point 65 07-08-2009 03:53 PM

The guy who started a thread with exclamation points at the end who was all excited that "because of ... a downsize of the 73 lift for United in the fall" RAH is going to get a West Coast base.

Congrats! And you're right, this couldn't have been placed in a worse section.

Thank God that most RAH pilots aren't so excited about benefiting from the demise of others.

390SetBlue 07-08-2009 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by BoredwLife (Post 641625)
Why is this posted in the Majors section? RAH is a disease regional and it should stay in the other section.

Agreed! Get the scalpel and cut it out! :D

shiznit 07-08-2009 03:54 PM

MODS, please get this out of the Majors Forum.

RAH is not at all a part of the "major" grouping.

grdprox 07-08-2009 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 641637)
The guy who started a thread with exclamation points at the end who was all excited that "because of ... a downsize of the 73 lift for United in the fall" RAH is going to get a West Coast base.

Congrats! And you're right, this couldn't have been placed in a worse section.

Thank God that most RAH pilots aren't so excited about benefiting from the demise of others.

Whooaa slow down skippy. I benefit the LEAST if RAH succeeds in their "takeover of the world". I suggest you get your facts about me straight about me first before you judge.

250 or point 65 07-08-2009 04:09 PM

forgive me for being jumpy. Perhaps you should express your dismay so those exclamation points didn't seem so rejoiceful. I wasn't the only one who thought you were excited.

EDIT: terrible engrish

G-Dog 07-08-2009 04:12 PM

Lies, all lies. No west coast base. Who is your source? By the way, like it or not RAH is moving toward a "traditional" major. You may not like how they are doing it, but it is happening.

grdprox 07-08-2009 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 641654)
forgive me for being jumpy. Perhaps you should express your dismay so those exclamation don't have seem so rejoiceful. I wasn't the only one who thought you were excited.

No problem. I should have expressed my self better, also I should have posted this in the right section (I was in the majors section by accident when I posted, chalk that up to old age) I am the least bit excited about this. What the hell is Tilton doing over there?

DAL4EVER 07-08-2009 04:17 PM

If you were upset by this, I would suggest changing the title of the thread from "West coast base for RAH!!!!" to "This sucks, more mainline flying being replaced................."

grdprox 07-08-2009 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 641662)
If you were upset by this, I would suggest changing the title of the thread from "West coast base for RAH!!!!" to "This sucks, more mainline flying being replaced................."

Touche' my brother. Nonetheless, Why is it that mainline flying as we know it seems to be eroding in front of my face? seriously, something has to be done or all of us domestic flyers will have to scrap and scrape for any international flying left.

johnso29 07-08-2009 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by grdprox (Post 641619)
I'm the lasssstt person to start rumors but according to a very reliable source, because of the success with RAH doing Spokane routes and a downsize of the 73 lift for United in the fall, they (United) is looking at expanding more west coast routes with RAH and a possible SFO domicile is in the works. They even said they (RAH) has been recruiting in LA for FA's already. Can any of you RAH guys validate this?

EDIT: Just realized this was posted in the wrong section. Move it if will be.


Originally Posted by grdprox (Post 641624)
Why, should I be?


Are you drunk? This is a lot of incoherent rambling. :confused:

deltabound 07-08-2009 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 641657)
Lies, all lies. No west coast base. Who is your source? By the way, like it or not RAH is moving toward a "traditional" major. You may not like how they are doing it, but it is happening.

Many have tried (well, a few), none have succeeded. Although COEX still seems to be hanging in there.

Transforming from a fee-for-departure, wet-lease airplane shop into an actual airline isn't as easy as it seems. Apparently selling your own tickets and turning an actual profit seems to be rather difficult.

But come on in. The water is fine (pay no attention to all the blood in it). It's a great business that you'd be crazy not to invest billions in!

BoilerUP 07-08-2009 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound
Transforming from a fee-for-departure, wet-lease airplane shop into an actual airline isn't as easy as it seems. Apparently selling your own tickets and turning an actual profit seems to be rather difficult.

When using 50 seat RJs, anyway...

But you're right, evidently its not that easy to sell your own tickets and turn a profit...even with planes larger than 50 seat RJs. Just ask UAL/AAL/DAL/SWA/FNT/MEH/etc...

Beechlover 07-08-2009 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 641685)
When using 50 seat RJs, anyway...

But you're right, evidently its not that easy to sell your own tickets and turn a profit...even with planes larger than 50 seat RJs. Just ask UAL/AAL/DAL/SWA/FNT/MEH/etc...



Time will tell

Golden Bear 07-08-2009 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by grdprox (Post 641619)
Can any of you RAH guys validate this?

Why don't you just ask your brother?


Originally Posted by grdprox (Post 590559)
Heres the thing. I'm at Delta 2.0 and my brother is a capt. at RAH. He has my recco along with a few of my buddies here and I keep telling him when we start hiring again, and we will, he's in.

:eek:

deltabound 07-08-2009 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 641685)
When using 50 seat RJs, anyway...

But you're right, evidently its not that easy to sell your own tickets and turn a profit...even with planes larger than 50 seat RJs. Just ask UAL/AAL/DAL/SWA/FNT/MEH/etc...

Actually, the closest scheme I can think of that mirrors what RAH appears to be lining up to try is the whole "Independence Air" debacle, and for much the same reasons . . . i.e., United not looking like the "sure thing" it once was.

Independence had lots of money, Airbus', and lots of CRJ's. Fast forward a year and you had a bunch of good people on the streets.

I'm no expert, and I have no dog in this fight. It's just the odds of starting a successful airline are always pretty slim, whether it be pure "start up" from scratch or a bite the hand that feeds you strategy. I'd hate to see the pilots of Frontier get hosed.

xtreme 07-08-2009 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 641739)
Actually, the closest scheme I can think of that mirrors what RAH appears to be lining up to try is the whole "Independence Air" debacle, and for much the same reasons . . . i.e., United not looking like the "sure thing" it once was.

Independence had lots of money, Airbus', and lots of CRJ's. Fast forward a year and you had a bunch of good people on the streets.

I'm no expert, and I have no dog in this fight. It's just the odds of starting a successful airline are always pretty slim, whether it be pure "start up" from scratch or a bite the hand that feeds you strategy. I'd hate to see the pilots of Frontier get hosed.

Yea, especially in this economy. Anyway... here's the moment of zen

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/...841e46241e.jpg

Burn baby burn...

dojetdriver 07-08-2009 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 641739)
Independence had lots of money, Airbus', and lots of CRJ's. Fast forward a year and you had a bunch of good people on the streets.

Actually, fast forward about 20 months. But I see what you're saying, sucked.

Noseeums 07-08-2009 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by grdprox (Post 641619)
I'm the lasssstt person to start rumors but according to a very reliable source, because of the success with RAH doing Spokane routes and a downsize of the 73 lift for United in the fall, they (United) is looking at expanding more west coast routes with RAH and a possible SFO domicile is in the works. They even said they (RAH) has been recruiting in LA for FA's already. Can any of you RAH guys validate this?

EDIT: Just realized this was posted in the wrong section. Move it if will be.

Congratulations. You're everything Skybus wanted to be and more.

GuppyPuppy 07-09-2009 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by grdprox (Post 641619)
I'm the lasssstt person to start rumors but according to a very reliable source, because of the success with RAH doing Spokane routes and a downsize of the 73 lift for United in the fall, they (United) is looking at expanding more west coast routes with RAH and a possible SFO domicile is in the works. They even said they (RAH) has been recruiting in LA for FA's already. Can any of you RAH guys validate this?

EDIT: Just realized this was posted in the wrong section. Move it if will be.

Just more crappy tactics by UAL management who have outsourced my job.

I'm lucky....I didn't go back during final recall two years ago. Had I gone back, UAL would have outsourced my job once again (original classmates now on second furlough).

Enjoy SFO on your regional pay. I had a difficult time there on mainline pay. One of the most expensive cities in the country...should be fun!

GP

577nitro 07-09-2009 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 641676)
It's a great business that you'd be crazy not to invest billions in!

"How do you make a little money in aviation? Spent a lot."

"What makes a plane fly? Money."

I always loved these quotes, should be the first thing taught at a flight school.:cool:

Roper92 07-09-2009 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 641622)
Why are you excited about this?

Hell yeah I'm excited! Can't wait to watch an RAH pilot try to afford a place to live out there. Even in the midst of a recession, the real estate prices out there are killer!

benairguitar23 07-09-2009 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by xtreme (Post 641743)
Yea, especially in this economy. Anyway... here's the moment of zen

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/...841e46241e.jpg

Burn baby burn...

Is it just me or is that a pretty cool looking paint job!? I think the airlines need to start looking at the happiness of their employees, better pay, better benefits, even something like painting the planes with a cool paint scheme so the pilots actually ENJOY getting on the plane and flying it would produce OUTSTANDING results! Happy employees result in happier passengers and therefore better business!:)

Roper92 07-09-2009 12:28 PM

You're right. Southwest pilots get to fly that NBA plane and provide a slam dunk service.

No pun intended :)

dojetdriver 07-09-2009 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by benairguitar23 (Post 642023)
Is it just me or is that a pretty cool looking paint job!?

Opinions vary. And it's weird, once in a while people will find a pic of a former I-Air plane that is now in service somewhere else in the world. Most, if not all are CRJs. Many of them still have the blue and white scheme with the new operator's logo placed somewhere on it.

This is really disgusting. When the I-Air was announced and the name on the certificate was changed over, they did a survey of what the new call sign should be.

Believe or not, one of the finalists was "bubbles". Must have been some less than straight person at the head shed that came up with that one.

xtreme 07-09-2009 01:04 PM

Ha

What about "Spirit wings"? Might as well be spirit fingers...

awrdmxsked 07-09-2009 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Roper92 (Post 642010)
Hell yeah I'm excited! Can't wait to watch an RAH pilot try to afford a place to live out there. Even in the midst of a recession, the real estate prices out there are killer!


Ever heard of commuting?? Word has it that hubs make good commutable bases.

ImEbee 07-09-2009 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by benairguitar23 (Post 642023)
Is it just me or is that a pretty cool looking paint job!? I think the airlines need to start looking at the happiness of their employees, better pay, better benefits, even something like painting the planes with a cool paint scheme so the pilots actually ENJOY getting on the plane and flying it would produce OUTSTANDING results! Happy employees result in happier passengers and therefore better business!:)

Wow you just cracked the code! Cool paint schemes equals better business. And it was under our nose the whole time...

Something about a shiny jet huh?

Fishfreighter 07-09-2009 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by grdprox (Post 641619)
I'm the lasssstt person to start rumors but according to a very reliable source, because of the success with RAH doing Spokane routes...

Yeah, XJT tried invading the GEG market too. The lasted 18 months or so. Good luck.

Dougdrvr 07-09-2009 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by awrdmxsked (Post 642068)
Ever heard of commuting?? Word has it that hubs make good commutable bases.

You don't know much about the SFO/ATC weather cabal, do you? Better plan on getting there the day before your trip starts or keep a car at Oakland. :)

JetJock16 07-09-2009 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dougdrvr (Post 642108)
You don't know much about the SFO/ATC weather cabal, do you? Better plan on getting there the day before your trip starts or keep a car at Oakland. :)

Absolutely...................."PAVE THE BAY!"

STILL GROUNDED 07-09-2009 07:13 PM

Nicely done, first class thread Hijack! Lets start one about how crappy RAH is and what loosers thier POS pilots must be for agreeing to flying airplanes for more money then they were making pre 2003 contract.

Oh never mind just use the search feature there are a ton of these posts. Sorry this must be a duplicate.

whaleroast 07-10-2009 10:20 PM

Well, for my part, any RAH guys or gals good luck getting a jumpseat on my flight you will not get on and you can take your little whiny complaints to your trucker union or Brian Bedrock, or Jebus or whomever but you are not welcome ever, ever, ever, ever!

BoilerUP 07-11-2009 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by whaleroast (Post 642985)
Well, for my part, any RAH guys or gals good luck getting a jumpseat on my flight you will not get on and you can take your little whiny complaints to your trucker union or Brian Bedrock, or Jebus or whomever but you are not welcome ever, ever, ever, ever!

And that's helpful, constructive, or professional how again?


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