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crazyjaydawg 07-24-2009 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler (Post 650267)
It just keeps getting better and better!

YouTube - Keeps Getting Better Lyrics- Christina Aguilera

I don't think BB is quite as good looking as Christina :D

FlyinPiker 07-24-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 650405)
The answer to the question posed in the thread title is: "Only if US Airways pilots surrender their scope. AGAIN."

Not if the 190's are destined to support their operations at Frontier & Midwest.

They could swap them for Frontier Airbuses.

BoilerUP 07-24-2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by FlyinPiker (Post 650435)
Not if the 190's are destined to support their operations at Frontier & Midwest.

They could swap them for Frontier Airbuses.

You're right...I read it as though RAH would be flying 190s for Airways.

:o

mking84 07-24-2009 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by B1900YX (Post 650052)
US Airways considers cutting its E-190 fleet
By Lori Ranson

US Airways considers cutting its E-190 fleet


US DoT Filing: Republic Airline, Inc. | Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation


Management at US Airways has launched an evaluation of elimination its fleet of 25 Embraer E-190s through direct sales or subleases.
Today during an earnings call with analysts and investors carrier President Scott Kirby said the fleet represents roughly 2.5% of total consolidated capacity at US Airways, and cutting the fleet would give the carrier additional flexibility to reduce its available seat miles.
Kirby also explains the E-Jet represent a small sub-fleet whose elimination could also create operational gains for the carrier. The aircraft are also in demand globally, so US Airways believes getting rid of the E-Jets is something the carrier "can effectively implement from a financial perspective", says Kirby.
US Airways owns the 25 aircraft, and company chief executive Doug Parker stresses the potential cutting of E-Jets from its fleet is not to raise liquidity, but to enhance long-term profitability.
In August 2005 US Airways issued a request for proposal to regional partners Air Wisconsin, Mesa Air Group and Republic Airways Holdings to operate up to 25 E-190s once it merged with America West.
But after mainline pilot protests a transition deal was ratified by America West and US Airways pilots to limit E-190 flying to mainline operations.



mmmmmm news to my ears!!!!!! I think on my next MKE sit I am going to go grab a nice cozy seat and watch RAH loose alot of money......

WeaselBoy 07-24-2009 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by mking84 (Post 650457)
mmmmmm news to my ears!!!!!! I think on my next MKE sit I am going to go grab a nice cozy seat and watch RAH loose alot of money......

You do realize these are the EMB-190's owned and operated by US Air mainline, don't you? You realize this is a reversal of these jets staying at mainline, right?

Or, did you just see Republic in the post and wanna play keyboard commando?

Fishfreighter 07-24-2009 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by FlyinPiker (Post 650435)
Not if the 190's are destined to support their operations at Frontier & Midwest.

They could swap them for Frontier Airbuses.

What you meant to say is they WILL swap them for F9 airbii.

G-Dog 07-25-2009 06:06 AM

Why swap anything? How about just take the aircraft. Doesn't Airways owe money to RAH. They could just simply right off the loan for a specified amount of aircraft. Instant assets with no payments. Easier to turn a profit that way.

By the way, this is all speculation that RAH will get those planes.

FlyinPiker 07-25-2009 06:27 AM

Republic has enough on it's plate. In this economy would it really be wise to be EXPANDING WITH 16 AIRPLANES (25-9)? That's a lot of new markets and a lot of new growth.

Not only that does Republic really have the money to buy two complete airlines and buy (forgive debt... whatever) 25 aircraft all inside of a few months? That's a lot of $$$.

Yes this is all speculation and will not be surprised if any of this does not happen.

But Doug himself said these aircraft are in high demand. The way I see it they also just happen to be in high demand by a airline that said they are replacing an entire fleet with them in the very near term yet have none on order.

320ToBearz 07-25-2009 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by FlyinPiker (Post 650637)
Not only that does Republic really have the money to buy two complete airlines and buy (forgive debt... whatever) 25 aircraft all inside of a few months? That's a lot of $$$.

What money are you talking about? $6 million in cash for Midwest? The Frontier deal is mostly in financing and has no bearing on RAH's cash position, they are simply assuming Frontier's debt. Do you understand Corporate finance?

powrful1 07-25-2009 08:50 AM

A little interesting tidbit is the USAir 190s are owned! So used would probably fetch 30ish mill a piece. Republic doesn't have that kind of scratch with these other deals in the fire. I figure if USAir gets rid of these birds they will go overseas.


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