This post is extremely sad. You guys are supposedly professional airline pilots yet you are working second jobs to pay the bills? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of the word "professional"? They should call you guys amateur pilots since you cannot support yourselves flying. It is really sad that companies pay so little to fly paying passengers, but what is more sad is how many pilots will do it with a smile on their face.

Therein lies the problem, hockeypilot. All of us love to fly so much that over the years there is always one of us that will do it for less than the other guy. Next thing you know, wages are where they are and everyone works a second job to pay the bills. Unfortunately, I don't think we've hit bottom yet either.

Sorry we dont make the big dollars like you. Some of us have families, school loans to pay off or whatever it may be. Whats not professional about working a second job? You might want to look up the definition in the dictionary. As for doing it with a smile on my face, thats what makes me a professional. I dont take out my frustration and disgust over the state of this industry on my passengers or the people I fly with. Thats a true professional, doing your job and not crying about pay and work rules drawing your attention away from your duties at hand, theres a time and place for everything.

Guys working second jobs to meet their responsibilites is anything but sad to me. I agree it's sad that sometimes that's required by all rights it shouldn't be, but lets not the fault the guys doing what their circumstances lead them to do. It certainly doesn't make them less professional. Remind me again what it is you do, or who you fly for.. maybe how long it's been since you were on first year pay.....

Are there any specific companies out there that are very flexible with schedules? I unfortunantly need a second job to help pay for school/bills so I do not have the degree to substitute teach. I have tried ones like target, sears, home depot but have had to luck and only one interview. Any ideas?

That's a tough one. Usually you need a family/friend connection to be able to get the flexible hours you would require. You might try some sort of manual labor job that wouldn't be as picky if you couldn't show up everyday. Another option, though it wouldn't be much cash, is you could become a "Guide" for ChaCha. They pay 10-20 cents a question you answer, but the nice thing is you can "work" all hours of the day, whenever you have time. Sorry, that's the best I can come up with!

How does one become a guide for chacha? im interested.

Where are you located Puckhead? PM me if you prefer.

You'll have to visit ChaCha - Mobile Search | Text Search | Questions and Answers. At the bottom of the page, you'll see a link for "Careers". When you click on that, you will see "Become a Guide" in the top right portion of the page. They are not currently hiring new guides, but check back frequently, as they very frequently hire. I think "KGB" is a competitor, so you may try them, as well.
In case you're wondering, you merely fill out an on-line application and complete the on-line training program (only takes an hour or two) on how to correctly answer questions, etc. After passing your "final exam", you are good to go.

I bet those truckstops are a real cash cow. :D

I hope your not thinking what I think your thinking. If so DON'T DO IT!:eek::eek::eek:

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Name says it all. But with recent events and changing of the banking laws, it has become much tougher to earn a living at it. But it is something you can do on the road with your computer if you put a little work into it.

Having a second job isn't always about paying the bills. I fly corporate with a great salary, I work for a logging company a few days a week whacking trees down just to do something besides sitting on my butt all day in an airplane. It doesn't pay great but it is nice to do something exciting that requires a little skill :D

Find a rich broad, use your talent and marry well. Live happily ever after:)

That's a full time job. Wouldn't work as a part-time job, no matter how much I try.

If you live in MI check out www.subpass.com About $90 a day and totally flexible.

(school of ROck) Mr. Schneibly...

I've found that in WA you need a bachelor's degree and a teaching certificate. Since I didn't do the coursework for a teaching cert when I earned my business degree, apparently I need to go back to a university and do it.

Probably not worth it for a sub job!

Stunt double in cable series "Hung."

I sell medical supplies on the side, I'm trying to pay off the horrendous debt I incurred when i got down graded a while back.

I'm sure the girls get tired.:D

I sell my blood plasma, sad but true. It pays more than Flight Instructing does right now. No students, no money.

Sell your kidney on the black market, just don't tell the AME ;)

Currently browsing Craigslist for something.

Anyone in Toledo needs a part time job / full time job I need an assistant for my Air Freight Broker gig. I am flexible with hours.

I used to work air freight before I started flying; let me know if you ever open a branch in DFW.

Lol, DTW is 45 miles from TOL. And it's just this branch. I work for a logistics firm, I just head the Air Services Division.

I worked the ramp when the flying got slow...not bad, you build contacts and reap the travel benefits. However, not to sound like a snob or anything, but I always felt weird, and never knew how to answer the question when people said "wait, you're a college grad, and you're a pilot but you're working here?"...still searching for a good answer, and not make myself look like a total degenerate.

I do some guitar playing around my state. The money is great! There are tens of dollars to be made in music!

I don't know exactly what you're saying, but working as a ramper does not indicate that they're a degenerate. I've known rampers with oodles of more character than many pilots.

I did have to answer similar questions when I worked jobs as a line cook and instructed. I just learned to not reveal my background. Then again, I wasn't trying to build contacts at Applebee's!

No, not at all implying that rampers are degenerates...I loved that job, and the people I worked with, gotta be top 10 jobs lifetime. Just poor word choice on my part.

Good advice though, dont reveal your background...except when you have hot co-workers.

I dont think he was saying Rampers are deginerates. he was saying he didnt want to sound like deginerate. He was loking for wards to say without sounding like a deginerate.