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Second Jobs?
Just curious as to what second jobs some of you guys have out there...
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Well that depends.... Are you talking about guys still flying 121 or furloughed? Guys that still fly 121 work at Home Depot, Starbucks or any other job that can be flexiable with part time hours and pays okay.
Furloughed guys are working cargo or ANYTHING else to pay the bills... I have a friend who just got hired on with the San Fran Police Department and his starting pay is 82k (he's already said he'll never go back to the airlines). So, there ya have it. |
Computer Course Designer... I plan to go back to the airlines unless I start pulling down 6-figures doing something else.
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I have never stoped pimping
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I was nearly furloughed late last summer. Had been thinking about looking for another job before, but that really kicked the search into over-drive. The only thing I could find with flexible enough hours was working on the ramp. I work a ton, but as a reserve FO I really don't have a choice - I don't know how I would make the bills work otherwise.
I'm still looking for something better, but as a word of advice - before you go looking for that sweet consulting job that every other guy is searching for, try something menial and easy first. The instant cash is a real help in the short-run, and even more useful is the practice gained from juggling an airline schedule with another employer's. |
Writing. Some consulting. Some classes on CRM and decision making.
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Originally Posted by Milk Man
(Post 663815)
Just curious as to what second jobs some of you guys have out there...
Second job?. That implies you already have ONE job. Lucky you!. Anyhow, no aviation/flight related jobs around here. So for me Bartending it is. Oh, I'll be getting my MBA online starting Sept. |
I teach in a RJ AATD and King Air sim as well as classroom stuff at Saint Louis University. When they were losing a bunch of instructors when hiring was good, I offered to help out part-time. Then they said they may be getting an RJ AATD and that using me as a CFI probably wasn't the best for both parties. It's worked out great. Teach Monday/Tuesday, fly Wednesday/Thursday - Saturday. Drink Saturday night, sleep Sunday.
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I have been seriously considering taking another part time job, but not really sure where to look. I enjoy my days off way too much, and I hardly every see the lady as is. So, it would have to be a pretty damn good paying and flexible part time job
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Air Force, enlisted
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I work at Fazoli's. Serve breadsticks and work the register.
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barback....
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 663913)
barback....
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I posted an ad before for a barista in my new coffee shop. If you can make a good cup of coffee, have good customer service skills, can operate a cash register, make sandwiches, and do general clean up (including the restroom), and can guarantee me at least 10 hours a week, PM me and we'll see if we can work something out.
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Originally Posted by vagabond
(Post 663918)
have good customer service skills.
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Substitute Teacher..........(Well paid babysitter);)
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Originally Posted by III Corps
(Post 663851)
Writing. Some consulting. Some classes on CRM and decision making.
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I work at Walmart as a Auto Tech... funny part is I make more part time there than I do full time at an airline...
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Flying skydivers and working as a youth counselor and its still not paying the bills. Thinking about going back to my old job, light infantry reconnaissance.
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Military reserves (usually fun often with travel), real estate, and consulting. The military is more interesting, but the consulting can usually done anywhere I have wifi. I'm looking into a (well paid) moderator/adviser gig for a distance-learning program.
I'll have to pitch military reserves... The pay is not great at first (better than a regional FO), but if you serve long enough it becomes significant. If you serve long enough it will help to develop your general professional skills, should you ever need to get a white-collar job. Plus there are education benefits, some of which can be applied to flight training. Also has flexibility advantages: -The airline has to let you go, no questions asked. -You can often go full-time for 1-3 years at your own discretion. -Your seniority/longevity/etc accrues while you are gone. -If you get furloughed, you can probably go full-time..good pay and great bennies. Many young airline pilots would be a good fit. Age cutoff is usually 28-30 for pilots, 35 for non-pilot officers. Officers need a degree. You can have a lot of fun enlisted, but the long-term problem there is that your civilian income growth will probably outpace your military payscale...if you got mobilized, you might take a big paycut. An officer would probably not take a paycut. A widebody CA could make more than a senior military officer, but you will probably be retired from the military by the time you get there. Disclaimer: Yes you need to be interested in and willing to serve your country, possibly in combat. You will likely get sent to the desert at least once, but that's not that big of a deal. The hard part is waiting to go...once you get there and get into the groove, the time goes by. Going forward, hopefully there will be more nation-building and less combat. Note that most services do not use reserves in direct-action combat roles...you might see action but you will not go looking for it. Exception would be USMC and those qualified in special operations while on active duty. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 663983)
Military reserves (usually fun often with travel), real estate, and consulting. The military is more interesting, but the consulting can usually done anywhere I have wifi. I'm looking into a (well paid) moderator/adviser gig for a distance-learning program.
I'll have to pitch military reserves... The pay is not great at first (better than a regional FO), but if you serve long enough it becomes significant. If you serve long enough it will help to develop your general professional skills, should you ever need to get a white-collar job. Plus there are education benefits, some of which can be applied to flight training. Also has flexibility advantages: -The airline has to let you go, no questions asked. -You can often go full-time for 1-3 years at your own discretion. -Your seniority/longevity/etc accrues while you are gone. -If you get furloughed, you can probably go full-time..good pay and great bennies. Many young airline pilots would be a good fit. Age cutoff is usually 28-30 for pilots, 35 for non-pilot officers. Officers need a degree. You can have a lot of fun enlisted, but the long-term problem there is that your civilian income growth will probably outpace your military payscale...if you got mobilized, you might take a big paycut. An officer would probably not take a paycut. A widebody CA could make more than a senior military officer, but you will probably be retired from the military by the time you get there. Disclaimer: Yes you need to be interested in and willing to serve your country, possibly in combat. You will likely get sent to the desert at least once, but that's not that big of a deal. The hard part is waiting to go...once you get there and get into the groove, the time goes by. Going forward, hopefully there will be more nation-building and less combat. Note that most services do not use reserves in direct-action combat roles...you might see action but you will not go looking for it. Exception would be USMC and those qualified in special operations while on active duty. |
I've heard that UAL has dentists, accountants, and lawyers. Realistic?
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Originally Posted by Counselor
(Post 663994)
I've heard that UAL has dentists, accountants, and lawyers. Realistic?
You might be able to get a JD and pass the bar while actively flying, but I would suggest at least one year off to attend actual classes at the beginning. |
I work at a funeral home removing the deceased from homes and hospitals. Needless to say, I make twice as much per hour transporting one dead person then I do flying 76 live ones, and I'm topped out on 4th year FO pay!
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Originally Posted by ehe2
(Post 664075)
I work at a funeral home removing the deceased from homes and hospitals. Needless to say, I make twice as much per hour transporting one dead person then I do flying 76 live ones, and I'm topped out on 4th year FO pay!
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I try to work on the family farm part-time on days off.
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Originally Posted by cubflyer
(Post 663967)
Substitute Teacher..........(Well paid babysitter);)
P.S. They don't make high school girls like they used to! |
Originally Posted by ComairFO
(Post 664123)
P.S. They don't make high school girls like they used to! |
Originally Posted by ComairFO
(Post 664123)
I substitute teach as well at a local high school. EASY money, and unlike scheduling, you can always say "NO" when they call!
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Own aerial photo company.
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Originally Posted by waflyboy
(Post 664137)
Seems like a number of pilots do this. How does a person with a B.A. and no teaching credentials (other than CFI) get into this? Do you need to get a certificate or something?
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Originally Posted by waflyboy
(Post 664137)
Seems like a number of pilots do this. How does a person with a B.A. and no teaching credentials (other than CFI) get into this? Do you need to get a certificate or something?
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I must admit, I feel extremely lucky to have a 2nd job as a Casino Dealer.. My company is extremely flexible, I get my Airline Schedule and they schedule me around it. The money is absolutely awesome and it's kind of a fun job doing it part-time. It's the only way I was able to afford taking the Airline gig.. pretty sad but I am fortunate.
Originally Posted by Milk Man
(Post 663815)
Just curious as to what second jobs some of you guys have out there...
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i am in the movie industry. Its a great gig, its mostly action movies...with couple lame lines to memorize in the begining of the scene. jk :)
I work for a vet for my second job. She is very flexible with times. Usually I put it anywhere from 10-15 hours a week (depends if i am working at the airline or not). The extra cash pretty much suports my rent. I am thinking of becoming a On call substitute teacher. |
Originally Posted by ComairFO
(Post 664123)
I substitute teach as well at a local high school. EASY money, and unlike scheduling, you can always say "NO" when they call!
P.S. They don't make high school girls like they used to! |
Trying to get a job at a local FBO but I also have an interview with Target tomorrow so well see. I wont turn down target if offered the job since I cant find anything else. Hopefully I can work somewhere when Im not flying to offset car/rent payments lol. Man gotta love the dream. :D
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I bang nails for my old employer framing houses. He is very understanding with my schedule and it allows me to make much more than what I make flying the line. Also keeps me in pretty good shape, especially in this hot friggin weather. It's sad that I can make $200 a day when I have the time off during the week compared to the rediculous pay we make flying. The guys on my framing crew can't believe the wages we make flying, they are shocked! I prefer to relax on my time off but my wife and daughter like to eat and enjoy a luxury like cable tv. Oh well, maybe when I make captain I can take a day off once in a while.
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Originally Posted by Slice
(Post 664556)
See you soon on Dateline NBC...;)
In the interest of full disclosure, I enjoy being married and find nothing attractive about females under the age of 18. Back to your regularly scheduled programming......:eek: |
I do a little part 91 stuff for some extra cash but it is the wifes job as a Nurse that pays the actual bills not to mention her 3 days on schedule gives us quite a bit of time together.
Scheduling has a large note in my file to NEVER call me to work if im not scheduled because after being an eager brand new FO and picking up a few trips, that wore off quick. Even if its a single day trip with a turn by the time I leave my house, commute to EWR, come back (if lucky) that same day and buy food I end up with something like $35 bucks. My time is worth much more than that. Including the part 91 gig I will not leave my house for less than $200 dollars or maybe $100 if its just a few hours away from the house both of which exclude my crappy airline job. |
Unfortunately, my second job became my first job after being furloughed 4 years ago. Video Production for the Popo. Only thing I do in aviation now is longingly look at this board and occasional ride in a helo. It's a good idea to get a 2nd backup job in something that is totally unrelated to aviation. That way when the industry tanks your second job will probably be un effected.
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