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Originally Posted by av8sean
(Post 665158)
No matter if the TA passes, I think it's become very evident that new blood is needed in the union.
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr
(Post 665304)
in one word, yes. they have to report to congress and explain how and what led up to them releasing us and with the current unemployment numbers where they are, the NMB is not going to put their arse's on the line and release us.
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Originally Posted by sandy69
(Post 665674)
If they release you, and you do strike you couldn't file for unemployment.
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Originally Posted by The Farang
(Post 665343)
They just released some other carrier... Like 1300 more people on umemployment matters. That will affect the rate by .00001%.
yeah they released a cargo carrier with 9 planes, watch out. 1300 people is only the pilots you are counting, if we go belly up, you've got mechanics, fa's, gate agents, rampers, dispatchers, and a ton of people that work behind the scene's at noncaring blvd hq. great statement farang |
Originally Posted by aviatorpr
(Post 665738)
yeah they released a cargo carrier with 9 planes, watch out. 1300 people is only the pilots you are counting, if we go belly up, you've got mechanics, fa's, gate agents, rampers, dispatchers, and a ton of people that work behind the scene's at noncaring blvd hq. great statement farang
Okay 5000? Still .00005% of the total unemployment. They could care less about unemployment anyways. It has nothing to do with unemployment. Its the disruption in essential air travel that would be the issue. But Delta has been covering their rear on that one...comair 2001 ring a bell? |
Originally Posted by The Farang
(Post 665739)
Okay 5000? Still .00005% of the total unemployment. They could care less about unemployment anyways.
It has nothing to do with unemployment. Its the disruption in essential air travel that would be the issue. But Delta has been covering their rear on that one...comair 2001 ring a bell? |
9E will not be released by the NMB.
Any thoughts to the contrary show a complete lack of understanding of the RLA and the National Mediation Board and how they both work (or as some correctly state, slow the process of negotiations to an incredibly slow pace). Be careful to not be held hostage by those who appear to base their decisons on emotion and a lack of understanding of basic economics and the role that pilots play within the airline business model. Good luck. :cool: |
Originally Posted by aviatorpr
(Post 665762)
what's your reasoning why the nmb doesnt want to release an airline group that has been bargaining in good faith for over 5 yrs?
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Originally Posted by Selcall
(Post 665886)
9E will not be released by the NMB.
Any thoughts to the contrary show a complete lack of understanding of the RLA and the National Mediation Board and how they both work (or as some correctly state, slow the process of negotiations to an incredibly slow pace). Be careful to not be held hostage by those who appear to base their decisons on emotion and a lack of understanding of basic economics and the role that pilots play within the airline business model. Good luck. :cool: |
In the real world I live in, 9E has made money every quarter for some time. They are not getting hit by the economy like the majors are, they are still getting paid the same amount as before. The economy being in a downturn only counts if your company is hurting, and ours isn't.
9E's biggest problem is the fact that thier managers seem to have thier heads up thier collective arses and want to throw a ton of cash into auction rate securities. Why should I be punished for thier poor judgement? Part of me thinks they wanted to make that money inaccessable to keep it from being on the negotiating table... I wouldn't put it past them. |
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