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Blackbird 08-25-2009 10:22 AM

U Fly Mic
 
Does anyone know if the U fly mike works with the new Bose Quiet Comfort 15? I know the U fly mike is for the QC 2 but the QC 15 is replacing the QC 2

TPROP4ever 08-25-2009 10:59 AM

I got this off the U fly mike website for what its worth...

QC-15: Bose just introduced a new QC-series, the QC-15. It appears the QC-15 is totally compatible with any UFM, past or present, but we have not physically inspected one ourselves to confirm that information. As soon as we have inspected the new headphones, we will post the results in this section.

This was posted in the news section of the uflymike.com website

Blackbird 08-25-2009 11:35 AM

thanks for the info

sailingfun 08-25-2009 11:44 AM

Keep in mind the Uflymike is not TSO's unless you are using the extra ear piece which almost no one does. Take a look at the Tbone headset if you want a legal headset that is inovative and great to use.

The Juice 08-25-2009 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 667990)
Take a look at the Tbone headset if you want a legal headset that is inovative and great to use.

Sounds like a headache waiting to happen for a Saab pilot

xtreme 08-25-2009 12:31 PM

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Intl Jumper 08-25-2009 12:37 PM

If your going to not get a TSO'd headset, might as well go big and get the Zulu's. Hands down the quietest headset ive ever used. For you CRJ guys you don't even hear the avionics fans upfront, or wind noise.

Blackbird 08-25-2009 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Intl Jumper (Post 668019)
If your going to not get a TSO'd headset, might as well go big and get the Zulu's. Hands down the quietest headset ive ever used. For you CRJ guys you don't even hear the avionics fans upfront, or wind noise.

People I've talked to said that the Zulu's are not as good as the QC, when you take size, price and usefulness into account. I flew with a Fed last week that said the TSO thing is overrated.

Mesabah 08-25-2009 02:07 PM

I think the TSO thing is BS. The reason the UflyMike has met so much resistance is probably because Bose doesn't want to have a product competing with its $1000 aviation X headset. I have used the QC2 for years now, and have never had a problem with it, I highly recommend it. Everyone I have recommended it to has loved it. If these new QC15's are even more quiet than the QC2, I might just make the upgrade.

Blackbird 08-25-2009 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 668054)
I think the TSO thing is BS. The reason the UflyMike has met so much resistance is probably because Bose doesn't want to have a product competing with its $1000 aviation X headset. I have used the QC2 for years now, and have never had a problem with it, I highly recommend it. Everyone I have recommended it to has loved it. If these new QC15's are even more quiet than the QC2, I might just make the upgrade.

Glad to hear that you like them, I've been having my Lightspeeds since I started flying in 05' and its time for a upgrade.

Intl Jumper 08-25-2009 08:27 PM

ive worn all different headsets for a long time, from Bose, David Clark and Lightspeed and more. In the end game its all about which one sounds good, and can you wear it all day long. The zulus are as comfortable as the Bose, but they go around the ear which gives it a better seal. I realize some people dont like that though. It does have that nifty plug in function for MP3 players and cancels music when you hear the radio or someone talks in the cockpit...Not that ive ever done that, flying in the midwest with no traffic on the radio for 20 minutes at a time. The zulus are a little on the pricey side, but if you have an old lightspeed headset they credit you up to $500 on the trade in. Like I said, its personal preference.

TheBills 08-25-2009 09:01 PM

I had a fed in the jumpseat who didn't say anything about my QC2/ Uflymike

ImEbee 08-26-2009 09:17 AM

To comply with the TSO, just get a pair of the in-ear buds from Target etc., keep them in your pocket and plug them in whenever anyone who needs to see them is there.

KingAirPIC 08-26-2009 03:11 PM

Just plugged my Uflymike into the QC15. Fits perfect. Didn't have it plugged into the aircraft so I cant vouch for it actually working. Does look like ( and sound ) like better passive reduction.
Anyone want to by a lightly used QC2?! 6 months on it.

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cpopilot 09-04-2009 07:27 AM

Just traded in my old QC2's for QC15's and they only cost me 150. So be sure to trade in or you'll pay the full price. Mine were the older champagne colored ones, if you have the silver QC 2's the 15's only cost $125.

Vegaspilot 09-04-2009 07:43 AM

How do you trade them in? Can you do it at the Bose kiosks in the airport?

OscarOscar 09-04-2009 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by cpopilot (Post 673038)
Just traded in my old QC2's for QC15's and they only cost me 150. So be sure to trade in or you'll pay the full price. Mine were the older champagne colored ones, if you have the silver QC 2's the 15's only cost $125.

Do they do trade-ins for the X? I'd like to go back the the QC!







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nigelcobalt 09-04-2009 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by OscarOscar (Post 673167)
Do they do trade-ins for the X? I'd like to go back the the QC!







OO.

Me too actually. I've tried every headset there is, and I think the uflymike set up is the way to go. No headset is perfect though.

TheBills 09-04-2009 06:14 PM

are you guys noticing a difference between the QC2's and QC15's? Are they noticeably different?

cpopilot 09-08-2009 03:34 PM

U fly mike
 

Originally Posted by Vegaspilot (Post 673044)
How do you trade them in? Can you do it at the Bose kiosks in the airport?

Yes, that is where i traded my 2's for 15's, at the DIA Bose Kiosk!

Blackbird 09-08-2009 06:26 PM

Please tell us how the QC15 compare to the QC2 when you get a chance please.

TurboFan 09-08-2009 11:36 PM

Directly from the U Fly Mike web site (news section):


09.03.09

QC-15: Bose just introduced a new QC-series, the QC-15. All versions of the UFlyMike, past and present, are fully compatible with either the QC-2 or the new QC-15.
I am currently using the UFM/QC15 set up for the first time on a trip and absolutely love it. I did lots of internet research and talked to dozens of guys in the cockpit. It seemed almost unanimous that anyone that had used the UFM absolutely loved it. From my experience the UFM works flawlessly with the new QC15's. Which begs the question if Bose is so anti-UFM, why did they keep the same cord adapter on the headphone as the QC2's? There really aren't any accessories for the headphones besides the UFM and proprietary Bose "cellular adaptor" so why not change it? Bose is so anti-UFM as a matter of fact, that there is actually an entire page in the QC15 user manual titled "other considerations" which basically tries to talk you out of the UFM (although they don't mention it by name), and sell you on the X headset. Just doesn't make sense to me.

I traded my old worn QC3's in for the QC15's for $100 at the Bose store. I did a lot of comparison between the QC2's and QC3's during my initial purchase and found the sound cancellation to be superior on the QC3's. That being said, I can tell you that the 15's are much better than the 3's in both noise cancellation and tonal range of music.

My recommendation goes to the UFM for any headset purchase you may be considering. I can vouch for how well they work on the RJ!

Blackbird 09-09-2009 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by TurboFan (Post 675506)
Directly from the U Fly Mike web site (news section):



I am currently using the UFM/QC15 set up for the first time on a trip and absolutely love it. I did lots of internet research and talked to dozens of guys in the cockpit. It seemed almost unanimous that anyone that had used the UFM absolutely loved it. From my experience the UFM works flawlessly with the new QC15's. Which begs the question if Bose is so anti-UFM, why did they keep the same cord adapter on the headphone as the QC2's? There really aren't any accessories for the headphones besides the UFM and proprietary Bose "cellular adaptor" so why not change it? Bose is so anti-UFM as a matter of fact, that there is actually an entire page in the QC15 user manual titled "other considerations" which basically tries to talk you out of the UFM (although they don't mention it by name), and sell you on the X headset. Just doesn't make sense to me.

I traded my old worn QC3's in for the QC15's for $100 at the Bose store. I did a lot of comparison between the QC2's and QC3's during my initial purchase and found the sound cancellation to be superior on the QC3's. That being said, I can tell you that the 15's are much better than the 3's in both noise cancellation and tonal range of music.

My recommendation goes to the UFM for any headset purchase you may be considering. I can vouch for how well they work on the RJ!


Thanks for the great post, I'm getting mine this month now for sure, by by lightspeed.

dynomonkey 09-09-2009 09:13 AM

I heard the zulu headsets have bluetooth. But they are 900 dollars!!

dynomonkey 09-09-2009 09:50 AM

Just called bose and the CS person said that they are not offering a trade in program at this time due to the QC15 only being 3 weeks old. Looks like its time for a road trip to the bose kiosk. What airport has the bose kiosk?

TPROP4ever 09-09-2009 10:37 AM

Does anyone or has anyone used them in the louder T-props (ala the Beotch 1900, king air or the burrito bomber)? How well do they work in this extremly noisy environment?

Do the new 15's still fold flat like the 2's did?

Fivedayer 09-09-2009 10:47 AM

I like the Clarity Aloft Pro. I've done three patterns with this headset, and I find it very comfortable. Plus no headset hair.

TurboFan 09-09-2009 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 675798)
Do the new 15's still fold flat like the 2's did?

Yes. They look also look nearly identical to the 2's.

JetFlyer06 09-09-2009 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by dynomonkey (Post 675761)
Just called bose and the CS person said that they are not offering a trade in program at this time due to the QC15 only being 3 weeks old. Looks like its time for a road trip to the bose kiosk. What airport has the bose kiosk?

I know PHL has one...in the main concourse by all the shopping.

nigelcobalt 09-09-2009 05:47 PM

DEN has a kiosk.

Vegaspilot 09-17-2009 09:54 AM

I actually traded in the QC2's for the 15s and while they are quite a bit quieter, they don't seem to seal as well and I get a lot of feedback on take off and taxi. It was enough of a problem that I could hear the ANR trying to compensate just chewing on something. Never had that with the 2s. I'm going to exchange them for a different pair and try that. If it's the same, then I'll trade em back for the QC2s again. On the plus side, Bose's CS is so far excellent.

TurboFan 09-17-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Vegaspilot (Post 680079)
I get a lot of feedback on take off and taxi.

I noticed the same thing. Although I personally don't find it a deal-breaker. I think the culprit is the fact that from my research Bose now has noise-cancellation microphones not only inside but outside of the earcups on the CQ15's, whereas the QC2's only had microphones inside the cups. The problem seems most pronounced on the CRJ during takeoff when you have lots of air coming out of the gasper vents. I like to position the vent to blow directly on my face and I think the high velocity of the air as it blows past the external microphone is causing the issue. To be honest with you after only a few trips I got used to it and now I don't even notice it anymore.

I still think overall the 15's have far superior noise-cancellation than the 2's and am quite happy with the setup.

Chperplt 09-17-2009 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Vegaspilot (Post 680079)
I actually traded in the QC2's for the 15s and while they are quite a bit quieter, they don't seem to seal as well and I get a lot of feedback on take off and taxi. It was enough of a problem that I could hear the ANR trying to compensate just chewing on something. Never had that with the 2s. I'm going to exchange them for a different pair and try that. If it's the same, then I'll trade em back for the QC2s again. On the plus side, Bose's CS is so far excellent.


I traded in my 2s for the 15s and haven't had any problems at all. They seem to seal very nicely (better than the 2s with my sunglasses) and are noticeably quieter. Flying an MD80... Not sure if airplane type has anything to do with your issue...

Vegaspilot 09-17-2009 08:49 PM

It's the Q400 so it's defiantely got more bumps, thumps and vibrations. I will say that the new ones I exchanged the first QC15s for seem to fit and seal better. Hoping that was the ticket.

Aviatormar 09-17-2009 10:03 PM

I'll check if they at the phl store will do a trade-in and let ya'll know.

seahawker01 09-18-2009 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Blackbird (Post 668038)
People I've talked to said that the Zulu's are not as good as the QC, when you take size, price and usefulness into account. I flew with a Fed last week that said the TSO thing is overrated.

Maybe one of the legal types can clarify but my understanding is the headset TSO thing does not really apply to most airliners. Most of the airliners are certified using the cockpit speakers and the handheld mike for communication. The feds require a boom mic (hands free) during critical phases of flight. This is why we can take off our headset en-route but wear them during terminal ops. Seeing that the UFM microphone meets the fed’s requirement the UFM/BOSE system is legal because the cockpit speaker is certified as the primary means (if a fed is onboard turn the speaker on). Now if your aircraft is certified using headsets (i.e. you cannot legally remove your headset en-route) then you are required to have a TSO’d headset (take the ear buds).

Vegaspilot 09-18-2009 07:10 AM

I also noticed on the Uflymike website that they say only the QC2 and not the QC15 is currently part of the TSO's combo. I thought it was just the earbud and boom mike that made that up and not the headset part. Kinda odd.

Parrothead 09-19-2009 09:04 AM

Battery Life?
 
For those of you using the new 15's how does battery life compare to the QC2? Wondering if it is decreased due to the new external mic inputs.

Thanks

TheBills 09-19-2009 09:59 AM

so from what I read so far it does not sound like its worth it to trade in my QC2's for Qc15's


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