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winglet 08-27-2009 02:54 PM

Patriotism is not a political party
 
Political leanings do not determine patriotism.

ewrbasedpilot 08-27-2009 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by winglet (Post 669045)
Political leanings do not determine patriotism.

Thanks for putting it so eloquently. You are 100% correct. Enough said.

akaviator 08-27-2009 03:15 PM

I stand corrected.

Hitler was a patriot to his Germany, as was Stalin to his Russia.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 08-27-2009 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by RuttR (Post 668830)
Am I the only one that finds this disrespectful?

SWA pilots have been doing it for years and I like it... I'm not at SWA but I wear mine if I happen to be flying on 4th of July...

Also, at home I like to wear this outfit ...and I'm a guy... :D

ufgatorpilot 08-27-2009 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Outlaw2097 (Post 669042)
Tie that represents the flag = ok.

Flag that you turned into a tie = not ok.

I hope this has been informative.

Not exactly..... The Flag Code defines flag very broadly.

According to the Flag Code, the words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 08-27-2009 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by akaviator (Post 669053)
...
Hitler was a patriot to his Germany, as was Stalin to his Russia.

All true, except Stalin was never a "patriot to his Russia" - "Steel Man" - Yosif Dzugashvili was a Georgian (no, the other Georgia ;)) not a Russian... a patriot (in a perverted way) to his Soviet Union - Da, Russia - Nyet... :D

Now, back to the regular program... :)

pilot772 08-27-2009 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 669039)
Just to let you know, comments like that CAN get you arrested, whether you think it's "free speech" or not. I'd be REAL CAREFUL posting something like that for everyone to see. One of my good friends was investigated for saying something on the phone......and did not expect the interest his statements generated.............

Your telling me that saying that you want to shoot an enemy of the state who is responsible for thousands of Americans deaths could get you arrested? Must be a new Obama administration thing cause didn't GW say basically the same thing about Osama Bin Laden "Wanted dead or alive"? :confused:

meeko031 08-27-2009 04:56 PM

worried about a tie, some do not even iron their shirts. wear the uniform 100% or don't wear it at all!!!

Airway 08-27-2009 05:21 PM

Wearing the american flag as an article of clothing (of any kind) is like the white trash uniform.

EVpilot 08-27-2009 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 668961)
I guess saying "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance would bother him too? :eek:
Don't like the tie? Don't look at it........... And then I noticed how much your AVATAR looks like one of the biggest tyrants the world has ever known..........what a coincidence........

What does that have to do with flag display etiquette?

And, by the way, the words under God were not added until 1954 so that is not a big part of our history as a nation.

EVpilot 08-27-2009 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 669013)
And if you think the Amercian Flag is tacky you must be a Prius driving, socialist, tree hugger, let me guess Osama deserves a fair trial.....you sicken me:eek:

The idea of Osama receiving a fair trial sickens you? And you consider yourself patriotic? To what nation? We, in the US anyway, are a nation of laws and principals. If we suspend due process for one then we can suspend it for all. If we deny rights to one we deny rights to all. I'm no friend of Osama but if we catch him then he his case should handled in accordance with the law. He should be properly represented and have his day in court. If that makes you sick then you have a problem with the principals upon which this nation was built.

ERJF15 08-27-2009 07:55 PM

I'm wearing my tie. And there nothing anyone can do about it!

130drvr 08-27-2009 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by RuttR (Post 668830)
Am I the only one that finds this disrespectful?

In a word, Yes.

Zapata 08-27-2009 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 668914)
Yeah, Right On!

Only Communist liberal Fashists would find wearing the flag design in any form anything but a statement of pure patriotism...

Only Laissez Faire Capitalists Conservative Fascists thinks pure patriotism is expressed through the wearing of accessories.

Zapata 08-27-2009 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 669013)
And if you think the Amercian Flag is tacky you must be a Prius driving, socialist, tree hugger, let me guess Osama deserves a fair trial.....you sicken me:eek:

Straw man argument alert!

Zapata 08-27-2009 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 668961)
I guess saying "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance would bother him too? :eek:

Any reference to such fairy tales should be stricken from the oath of forced patriotism.

Guess what, I am as patriotic as they come.

DryMotorBoatin 08-27-2009 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 669175)
Only Laissez Faire Capitalists Conservative Fascists thinks pure patriotism is expressed through the wearing of accessories.

In addition to the wearing of accessories I would also accept...
  • lighting fireworks while fist pumping
  • saluting with a beer
  • calvin urinating on anything unamerican
  • insulting gojets.

youngairliner 08-27-2009 10:13 PM

Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).

The words "under God" were added in 1954 by then President Eisenhower, who stated at the time, "In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war."

It is a pledge written by a religious socialist and then altered by the guy who help establish and coin the phrase military industrial complex.

Learn your history clones.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 08-27-2009 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 669175)
Only Laissez Faire Capitalists Conservative Fascists thinks pure patriotism is expressed through the wearing of accessories.

Wow, you can wear your accessories all day long and no one will call you a commie...


PS. Carranza and General Guajardo were true patriots! :)

av8sean 08-27-2009 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by ConnectionPilot (Post 669006)
Well I'm sorry, but if I had a gun and saw Osama, I'd shoot him.

Oh also, I love my F-150. I love the freedom I have to drive it. Noone will ever tell me what I can or cannot drive. Nor should they.

Have fun driving your gas guzzling Saudi Arabia supporting, Canadian built F-150 with your Osama bumper sticker! At least my Honda, built in Ohio, wasn't supported with taxpayer money.

sinsilvia666 08-27-2009 10:52 PM

only problem with all that is we are all from overseas at some point, unless ur a native american !

aviatorhi 08-27-2009 11:51 PM

Even "Native Americans" are from overseas at some point, so don't start with that argument.

They have sovereignty over their tribal lands and they can do as they choose on them, DC exercises sovereignty over the remainder.

@Zapata

I didn't realize Geri Haliwell was a British Fascist, good to know.

Patriotic or not, you breathe intolerance and stupidity.

ewrbasedpilot 08-28-2009 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by pilot772 (Post 669069)
Your telling me that saying that you want to shoot an enemy of the state who is responsible for thousands of Americans deaths could get you arrested? Must be a new Obama administration thing cause didn't GW say basically the same thing about Osama Bin Laden "Wanted dead or alive"? :confused:

Ooops.......I misread his post.........sorry. :o Although wasn't it GWB that said he didn't know why so many people were so concerned with Osama because he WASN'T? :confused:

subicpilot 08-28-2009 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by youngairliner (Post 669214)
Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).

The words "under God" were added in 1954 by then President Eisenhower, who stated at the time, "In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war."

It is a pledge written by a religious socialist and then altered by the guy who help establish and coin the phrase military industrial complex.

Learn your history clones.

If you want people to learn from your posts rather than just be ****ed off at your arrogance, then you need to work on your delivery a little. Just a casual observation.

After reading your post, I wanted to put a cigarette out in your face, rather than thank you for your valuable and informative post.:rolleyes:

Is this what you wanted?

USMCFLYR 08-28-2009 05:28 AM

Alrighty then......a thread about wearing an American tie has led down the path of politics and religion and which party is patriotic and which is communist. Even informative posts end with insults at the general forum population. Nice job APC. Thread closed.

USMCFLYR


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