I wont be shocked at all if it passes. There are a lot of big typers out there that type a big game, but wont back it up in the real world. Our BB is a shining example of that. Just watch it pass even after the 70% no vote on the BB. There are a lot of pilots at this company with their heads in the sand. I'd say 25% of the group wont even read the TA. I'm really hoping it gets voted down, but will not be surprised at all if it passes. DW is going to have a field day with the loose language and will twist the words into the companies favor in a matter of weeks. The C3 comittee is going to have its work cut out for them.

The only "yes" crowd I see is the 15-18yr folks, and I can't blame them. Unfortunately for their position the vast majority of the pilot group is not on that longevity and have a heavy "no" sentiment. Time will tell. I am curious to see if after all the talk there is bite.

You guys do realize that the is a total of 7-9 people on this posting...In the end you only represent a hairline fracture of the whole PNCL pilot group...the ones that are quiet and not online will determine the vote. The ones that are not jumping up and down in the crewroom screaming bloody murder will determine the vote...just try to remember that. Because in the end...they will remain quiet and just do their jobs...fade to black...sorry but it is the truth...

I agree, but on the union message board there was a poll and 400 people participated in it. If and its a big if everyone voted like they did on that i see no way the yes votes would be able to make up the difference needed.