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bgmann 09-19-2009 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler (Post 680767)
The last time they tried it, they couldn't agree on the terms. American is very picky. They want to sell the airline, but still run it.

American had a buyer for Eagle years ago but the airlines weren't included in the sale. Who wants an airline without planes?

bgmann 09-19-2009 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 680877)
Another stab for our 7plus yr FO's.Hope AE ALPA comes victorious.

Wow! I didnt know our upgrade time improved by 2 years. Awesome. ;)

bailee atr 09-19-2009 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 680903)
Wow! I didnt know our upgrade time improved by 2 years. Awesome. ;)

We sucked up a 16 year contract to be able to unify all the eagles in to one pilot group. We should not be willing to give up the 16 years of sacrafice for the price of 22 shiny new jets. All connection should stay in STL. If this goes through forget any leverage we have in the 2013 contract negotiations. :mad:

dojetdriver 09-19-2009 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 680902)
Who wants an airline without planes?

Easy, Glen Tilton.

CANAM 09-19-2009 09:59 AM

Why is nobody griping about Eagle flying more larger aircraft and a FIRST CLASS SECTION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Where is the outrage about mainline flying being stolen by Eagle? Doesn't this seem somewhat hypocritical?

johnso29 09-19-2009 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 680902)
Who wants an airline without planes?


Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 680918)
Easy, Glen Tilton.


I was thinking this guy---------------->Tim Hoeksema

What a JERK!! :mad:

320ToBearz 09-19-2009 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 680848)
Just seems odd. I don't know what provisions are in the CHQ contract. AMR signed a deal for X amount of block hours. Since CHQ has been flying STL since the TWA times those routes were CHQ(if we dare act like we own routes) yet those are being closed. So X amount of block hours has to come from somewhere. Does EGLs contract list STL specifically or is it other TWA bases?



It wasn't the contract but an arbitrators ruling that limited TSA/CHQ/Corp Air to STL.

320ToBearz 09-19-2009 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by CANAM (Post 680934)
Why is nobody griping about Eagle flying more larger aircraft and a FIRST CLASS SECTION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Where is the outrage about mainline flying being stolen by Eagle? Doesn't this seem somewhat hypocritical?

The difference is AMR, Inc. OWNS Eagle and thats a BIG difference. The 22 extra CRJ's (which truly were a mainline replacement aircraft at Eagle for the F100) still result in a net decrease of aircraft for Eagle due to the turboprops being parked.

To the Eagle guys: When did Tony get elected and Herb got out of office? It's nice to see Herb get out of his ivory tower and fly from the right seat and witness what his crappy leadership brought out.

bailee atr 09-19-2009 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by 320ToBearz (Post 680944)
The difference is AMR, Inc. OWNS Eagle and thats a BIG difference. The 22 extra CRJ's (which truly were a mainline replacement aircraft at Eagle for the F100) still result in a net decrease of aircraft for Eagle due to the turboprops being parked.

To the Eagle guys: When did Tony get elected and Herb got out of office? It's nice to see Herb get out of his ivory tower and fly from the right seat and witness what his crappy leadership brought out.

He was just voted in. I like the fact that T.G. waisted no time in pointing out our new contract violation. I really hope his new MEC chair acceptance video becomes a reality and we do become a more unified pilot group.

mwa1 09-19-2009 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 680759)
A news article I read today said that Eagle would get additional routes out of STL. Eagle is also already flying places that were once operated by CHQ out of STL. So is this contract violation based on net hours of gain/loss of flying or is it based on which routes are flown by who? Why are they saying this is an outsourcing of additional flying. Does anyone know if CHQ is seeing any additional block hours? We were at 14 aircraft and are now down to 12 as of this year. The flying is for those 12 aircraft out of ORD. Why is that a contract violation? Just curious I'm based in STL and would rather it not be closed for us myself though that doesn't seem like it's going to happen.

the routes in STL are allowed by the arbitrator. nothing more, nothing less.


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