Um yes, absolutely. The Legacy networks are full of routes that used to be flown by, for example, F100s and 727s (at AA), that were whole-sale outsourced to Eagle well before the CR7 or E-Jet series came into play.

 

Know what fellas...there is nothing we can do about it. AMR runs the show, so we (AA/EGL) just do what we are told. Let the unions battle this crap out. I do wish both of our pilot groups would get together and fight back, but we all know how that is.

 

I wish the eagle pilots the best of luck in this. I am glad you guys are geting new aircraft. However, you are not bending over like several other regionals have done and are currently still doing just to get new shiny planes. I thank you for standing up and you have my support. As a regional pilot though, I just have one thing to say here.... Don't we all want growth at the mainline level. I mean, that is what we should be fighting for to stop the growth at regionals like RAH. Like I said already, I am glad you guys are getting the 25 planes or whatever because that means your pilots on the street will be getting a paycheck in the next few months. I just don't want to fly an RJ forever with RJ pay, benefits and work rules. The work rules may change soon but who knows, thats another thread! Yes, we need to stand up and fight for the contracts we have in place but also try and build the top of this industry again like the pilots before us had...Unfortunately, trying to get management to do anything to help any of us is like crossing a bridge to nowhere with no end in sight. Good luck and fly safe!

 

Care to tell us what other airlines are "currently" still "bending over" just to get shiny new planes?

And what your definition of "bending over" would be?

Last time I checked, RAH pilots haven't taken concessions to gain more flying...unlike many of their holier-than-thou colleagues on this board.

 

w/o the regional feed there is no mainline. ever thought of that? they grow together proportionately not at the expense of one another. It cost double per seat mile to operate an RJ and they are not doing this to spite the mainline pilots. It's simple economics. RJ's are deployed in a weak market to protect the network and removed when a market supports larger equipment. This is not a conspiracy.

 

I guess they just hate people and enjoy leaving them at the gate. oh and they hate making money too, BOD fires them if they do.

 

I don't get it. Is that a question, or are you agreeing with me?

 

Well, since they parked all their Saabs, I'd say even with the new airframes they are still at a new loss for aircraft... overall.

 

Ever thought that without the subcontractors, the mainline companies woud have to buy the smaller planes, and hire more pilots, and for the first time in a long time charge a price that covers costs instead of getting th esavings on the backs of employees willing to work for nothing.

 

I am asking that you consider that you may be preupposing this in your statement. I am not convinced that RJ's have "replaced" flying since it costs over 2 times as much to operate them. That remains to be proven. IOW this is not a classic whipsaw but downsizing to market conditions or attempts to capture a new market without risking greater sums of money. I am unconvinced by the rhetoric that regionals are stealing jobs.