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jparker371 10-13-2009 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 693067)
Talk about beating a dead horse. We get it. I don't think anyone out there seriously blames a RAH pilot for what their company is doing. And the other people that your post is meant for are going to continue to bash RAH because there is no other method for them to channel their frustration. Don't take anything on this regional forum too seriously, it's just a good way to pass the time. Best of luck to you, it's very unfortunate.

willie,
gotta say sir always inspired. always inspired. TSA Fall/Winter 07 hire? maybe? brian? dude seriously you shouldn't post here, for once the spotlight is off you....dude enjoy it, seriously enjoy it, this IS a free pass, take it. JUST TAKE IT. In all seriousness though, in all seriousness, willie boy, keep up the good work, you inspire all of us..........:eek:. take care brosif

AirWillie 10-13-2009 10:17 PM

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ToiletDuck 10-13-2009 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by likeitis (Post 693512)
I don't make the rules I just have to live with them.

Funny how you only see that door as swinging one way. You keep saying how your managements decisions shouldn't be held against you and how "you don't make the rules you just live with them" but for some reason you can't see how that applies to other pilot groups.

3XLoser 10-14-2009 12:12 PM

We've strayed far from the original post that started this thread, which was from someone that I have likely flown with, and most likely admire and respect. But what has happened in the thread since then is why an arbitrated seniority integration is necessary, and very soon, since every day that passes, another Midwest pilot hits the street, real people with real lives that are being turned upside down.

aewanabe 10-14-2009 12:51 PM

To the OP: Classy post sir. I wish you all the best. I have exercised the supposed "direct relationship" with we have here at JB to suggest preferential interviews and/or hiring when we begin hiring again- sadly I have no idea when that may be.

To my former RAH brethren, I get the defensiveness to a point. But why do you keep pointing out YX's allegedly failed business model, while ignoring the fact that BB obviously intends on continuing the YX brand. Are you as vocal with the EXCO that you want a fair and fast integration to get YX guys back to work, as you are defending yourselves on here? Why is it so hard to simply admit out loud that you've been used directly as low-cost replacement labor and it's not okay?

Dirty Rat 10-14-2009 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 694227)
To the OP: Classy post sir. I wish you all the best. I have exercised the supposed "direct relationship" with we have here at JB to suggest preferential interviews and/or hiring when we begin hiring again- sadly I have no idea when that may be.

To my former RAH brethren, I get the defensiveness to a point. But why do you keep pointing out YX's allegedly failed business model, while ignoring the fact that BB obviously intends on continuing the YX brand. Are you as vocal with the EXCO that you want a fair and fast integration to get YX guys back to work, as you are defending yourselves on here? Why is it so hard to simply admit out loud that you've been used directly as low-cost replacement labor and it's not okay?

Great post. Are you Republic PILOTS reading this?

likeitis 10-14-2009 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 693881)
Funny how you only see that door as swinging one way. You keep saying how your managements decisions shouldn't be held against you and how "you don't make the rules you just live with them" but for some reason you can't see how that applies to other pilot groups.

Whatever dude. Selective reading I guess. I'm on record stating the problem is with your EXCO. They seem clueless and inconsiderate at best. If I was a part of your union I would be ashamed. Doesn't give the YX and F9 guys a warm fuzzy feeling about their likely representatives in the future.

YXnot 10-14-2009 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by 3XLoser (Post 694200)
We've strayed far from the original post that started this thread, which was from someone that I have likely flown with, and most likely admire and respect. But what has happened in the thread since then is why an arbitrated seniority integration is necessary, and very soon, since every day that passes, another Midwest pilot hits the street, real people with real lives that are being turned upside down.

I believe you and I have flown together also and I wholeheartedly agree wrt the need for an arbitrator. In fact I expect that an arbitration will be the best chance for those of us who were furloughed nearly a year now to to get an offer that is well, lets just say a job offer. For some that will be enough.

If we get hammered again, well that will just complete the trifecta. :(

Dirty Rat 10-14-2009 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by YXnot (Post 694280)
I believe you and I have flown together also and I wholeheartedly agree wrt the need for an arbitrator. In fact I expect that an arbitration will be the best chance for those of us who were furloughed nearly a year now to to get an offer that is well, lets just say a job offer. For some that will be enough.

If we get hammered again, well that will just complete the trifecta. :(

I agree. I don't share the same feeling the original poster has. I for one do not care about a "fair integration". I hope it goes to arbitration and we finally get the justice that has been denied us now for over a year. Again, what happens to the Republic pilots is their problem. Our furloughed pilots lost their jobs because they were REPLACED by lower paid, less experienced flight crews. There is no other way to put it. This is nothing but a complete lockout of YX pilots whose jobs were taken by a willing pilot group who have remained silent and unconcerned about those they have wrecked.

D.R.
Whacked by Republic

MD80 10-14-2009 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Dirty Rat (Post 694391)
I agree. I don't share the same feeling the original poster has. I for one do not care about a "fair integration". I hope it goes to arbitration and we finally get the justice that has been denied us now for over a year. Again, what happens to the Republic pilots is their problem. Our furloughed pilots lost their jobs because they were REPLACED by lower paid, less experienced flight crews. There is no other way to put it. This is nothing but a complete lockout of YX pilots whose jobs were taken by a willing pilot group who have remained silent and unconcerned about those they have wrecked.

D.R.
Whacked by Republic



We will learn the true reason for the Midwest pilot lock-out soon. Republics EXCO will start to show his/her cards during integration talks this week.


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