You wanna bet? We've hit an iceberg.... and it's just a matter of time before the damn thing splits in half and goes down faster than a catholic priest. Unfortunately, all the lifeboats have been used by senior "management" too.

That was my thought too. I'm not hating on paxhauler by any means but I am also getting kicked off this sinking ship too so I have a hard time believing that there will be a rescue boat in the horizon for myself and a lot of my colleagues.

No sense in denying the inevitable. It's reality. It's time we get a clue and accept the fact this company will not be around much longer, and that thousands of people will be out of work including some 1400 pilots (total I guess).

God how am I supposed to pay the mortgage? How am I even going to eat? I mean it's hard enough on Mesa pay, but I get by, albeit barely. I could lose everything. But you know what.... I won't though. Eff this company, and Eff those in upper management. I'll be better off one day than any of them ever hoped they could be. I'll be rich AND happy - something they'll never know. They can't get me down like this.... they aren't going to win.

and like so many others... you(personally) will be just fine. That whole last paragraph defines Mesa and the mentality that plagues all levels of MAG. The "me..me...me, "f" management..mentality that gets you nowhere but embarassed at the fact that no one really sympathizes with you. :cool:

Unless you're a 10+ year Captain, its not hard to beat ANY regional salary in the real world. If you have a College degree, even if its in aviation, you can find a job in management somewhere and easily make more than this garbage. Home Depot managers make $45k+....thats more than I make pulling gear.

It kills me when I see people at the Regional level ***** about not being able to pay bills if you're company goes under....all it takes is a little bit of effort and a good plan B, and you can make MORE than you do now. ;)

Set a torch to all the Regionals and let'em burn.....:D

I sympathize. IT's original post does not cry "Me, Me, Me". It says, "I will make it through the tough times ahead". So you feel that MAG pilots are too hard on management? Interesting.

It is sad, but it also should be a lesson to the younger folks on the boards looking for future careers that being very selective about who you will work for is just as important as getting the flight time....

This is nothing more than a position move for when Mesa liquidates. Every Republic deal has resulted in a takeover.

I wish they would buy Mesa. Maybe they could do something and save it. You know it wouldn't be a half bad airline if someone put some time and effort into it. JO and Lotz just haven't put an investment into it, and look at how it turned out.

Well I'm sure Mesa would have been bought long ago when their stock was worth 5 cents, there's no interest in the company. It would be better for everyone if it goes away. I'm sure that if Mesa does survive even after the possible BK, then there would be a better chance of being bought.

Mesa has too much debt. So anyone buying them would be commiting suicide.

Exactly. Sorry to disappoint, but buying Mesa would be the last thing Republic would do. Bedford has wanted his own Major airline since getting into the business, another regional would not fit into that bill.

Yes you guys are right. JO, Lotz and company have poisoned this airline. They've run it into the ground and have torn it to pieces.

Could have been a good thing. It had a lot of potential.

Their pay reflects a regional operation. It's time to change that RAH pilots. Please DEMAND what you are worth.

Correction. BB want's his own LCC in which he pays his pilots regional wages to fly 100+ seat airplanes. I hope and pray that RAH pilots derail his plans and DEMAND the wages they deserve.

For the sake of the industry, PLEASE don't let us down.

I hope you're right that we RAH pilots will stand in the breech and stop the madness. But it won't happen I'm afraid, most of the guys and gals are happy to have a job! Too many are scared.

There is NO time to be scared. RAH pilots have been tossed into a Lion's Den & are being forced to realize that you are now Major Airline pilots. BB & RAH have quickly changed you from Regional status to Major status, & many will now stay @ RAH for their career.

You as RAH pilots have a TON of work to do, because pay is not your only worry. You now have to be educated & concerned on things like retirement, work rules, long term disability benefits, etc. No junior manning can no longer be the highlight of your contract. There are a massive amount of things Legacy pilots have in their contracts that most Regional pilots don't even know about. Things like reserve pilots not be allowed to be flown past 85 hours a month, PBS not being allowed to schedule pilots past 80 hours a month, etc.

Lots of stuff to learn, as this may have become many RAH pilot's career airline.

I agree, Republic has a responsibility to support our profession so we are more than air-Bus Drivers. Get it?

N868RW on its way back :(

FlightAware > Shuttle America #9400

It can make it nonstop? Does it have some seats out & fuel bladders installed? That seems like a really long way for an E175 to fly nonstop.

Well if they made it to Hawaii from the mainland they could probably make it back.

and faster after the ass whip'n in the aloha state!!!!

with a decent tailwind, full fuel and no pax, certainly.

No getting them was an adventure.... up to alaska....out to midway... then to the hawaii.

I believe when they took them there they did NOT go direct. I remember the flight tracker showing them going up through AK. A Cessna Caravan can make it to Hawaii, but it needs some temp mods to do it. ;)

Yeah see. What he said! :D

the hawaii and such as... We need maps