Republic/Mesa Enter Mokulele Joint Venture
 

News Releases:

Republic Airways Forms Joint Venture with Mesa to Operate Hawaii Service

Mesa Announces Joint Venture Between go! and Mokulele

Websites:

go!

go! Mokulele

Hope RAH is using the long spoon on this one...

RAH will be buying Mesa soon.

It looks like Republic is slowly trying to take over the world!

Soon all pilots will be working for RAH at minimum wage.

I can't figure out who lowered the bar this time... RAH, Mesa, or GoJet?!?

:confused:

So RAH wants their 170s back and its cheaper to give some revenue to mesa to operate the flights than to send their own crews out there to restaff it with 50 seaters...is how I read it?

I don't know why this made me chuckle. I guess the absurdities of this business still get to me from time to time.

So what happens to Mokulele? It seems like it they be dissolved because the appearance of the article is that RAH is pulling stakes and sending whatever bookings they have to Mesa. The article doesn't have any language of a future codeshare for flights. The Mokulele shareholders are getting a monetary return as a concession the way I read it.

What the hell! Geezzzz I thought I had seen it all

A cockroach feeding a cockroach. Lovely.

what ipilot said

ha....you stay classy Republic...er, planet earth:rolleyes: Wow, words cannot express.

I was as skeptical as anyone when I saw this title but it sounds to me like republic is getting the H out of hawaii and Mesa is just the exit strategy there.

What was Republic's strategy / purpose to get in Hawaii anyway? Did they want to try to put Mesa into bankruptcy so they could pick up some extra UAX flying if they liquidated?

This has just been a big waste of money for RAH, but they have a ton of it. At least BB cut his losses early, compared to JO. Mesa USED to have a ton of money, until Hawaii and China.

hey they both are winners of the regional airline of the year award. republic = mesa...sad they had to take a dive like this

One can only hope-but it probably will be only wishful thinking.

Could be very interesting. RAH is in negotiations and may really tick everyone off by getting a better contract. If the integration can work out to protect MidEx jobs, that's a big positive as well.

What will be even more interesting will be the possibility that unlike elsewhere, if one unit of the wholly owned group were to go out on strike, the entire group would go out in support of the striking pilots. That would create tremendous leverage against the parent company.

It's called "trade unionism."

I'm pretty sure it was to keep the 170s flying after RAH lost their flying with Frontier. It's expensive to hold leases on aircraft, and at that time nobody wanted additional aircraft due to the high oil prices.

You mean 'seeing E170s competing with CRJs competing with Dash 8s and you're surprised that the jets aren't making money type' seeing it all?

One regional flying for another regional. Awesome.

WTH???????:eek: BB and JO are the biggest arch enemies to one other!:confused:

Maybe it was cheaper to have mokulele go back to Mesa seeing they owed lots of $$ to go for stuff last year. Before they became part of Republic. Maybe this will also end the codeshare agreement with island air, so Mesa can avoid continuing a huge scope violation

It's the end of the world :)




I personally think that Republic feels it can make more money at the mainland with those planes.

But correct me but didn't MAG and Mokulele have a fallout a while back?

sure did

Republic Airways entered Hawaii's inter-island service market last October when it purchased a stake in Mokulele, and eventually owned nearly 90% of the small carrier's shares.
Soon afterwards, Mokulele sued Go airlines for alleged anticompetitive behavior, which followed a separate lawsuit filed by Mesa accusing Mokulele of not paying more than $390,000 in fuel costs.

Republic Airways to exit Hawaii - MarketWatch

I agree with this one. Use Mesa as an exit strategy to get the F out. IMO, SD wants to accomodate whatever remaining passengers that have already booked on Mokulele in good faith and when the last passenger is accomodated he's going to pull the plug as an investor with Mesa and wash his hands from the whole Hawaii adventure.

Here is my layman's way of looking at it. Two enemy ships sinking next to one another. Yours is sinking faster. Form a joint venture with the enemy, get all your crew and passengers on the enemies ship and help bail. The rescue boat arrives and you get all your people on the rescue boat first. Then you bail out leaving the enemy ship to sink alone.

Whats up with the go! moku stock? How much is 25% really worth?? And the delisting?? All this sounds like a date in court to me. Scott Durgan said on tv that he is working hard to protect the contract ground service workers. Paul Skellon says that go! will hardly change its flights to cover the other carrier sales. If you can't fly go! aloha you can fly go! mokulele????????? do you think Republic may provide different aircraft for the new airline to operate in the future????

Sure, we're a convenient exit strategy when you realize your upside down trying to run a HI airline with the wrong equipment.

We've got a good "ship" though, because the naysayers claim we've been sinking for 3 years now.

Just admit it: BB jumped into this, it wasn't fruitful and he's now getting out. Mesa will benefit by carrying their passengers on the CRJ's and the caravan's will resume flying.

Yep, until he realized JO could save/make him some money. Everyone has their price my friend, and everything is about money. Integrity no longer exists in any industry.

Sucks to realize, doesn't it?

Republic is not a regional

This is very interesting:

"Also, mainland routes currently served by Republic subsidiary Shuttle America will be operated by Go! beginning Thursday. The routes are mostly in the Midwest."

Is this a misprint?

winglet

Yes they are! Anytime you fly for those wages, I don't care if your flying a 74-400, if your making 60 bucks an hour doing it, you are flying for a regional.

Read the same article too. It seemed strange how it was a fairly exacting statement from a reputable article. There wasn't any other text that made it seem like it was misstatement of facts. Interesting...

What's up with Go! doing Republic flying in the midwest? Is that actually correct? Recalls on the horizon with that news?

What does the logo on the plane look like? To which ticket counter, in which city, do I go to purchase a ticket on a republic flight? :rolleyes:

Only when it is republic dba republic ... Until then... walks,talks, and looks like a regional, must be a regional, albeit a big one, but a regional none the less.

Is it even possible for GO to do flying for Shuttle on the main land? How exactly would that work since Shuttle flys for mainline carriers and isnt its own branded operation.

Good ship? You must be pretty senior there hauler

Maybe they'll fly for the Midwest brand, do it cheaper, and put "connect" on the side.

I'm not. You missed my point.

I was implying that I have been told (by people working at other airlines) we are days from liquidation for the past three years. Pretty ship? Not at all, but we're not taking on water as fast as everyone else would like us to.

No...it's not possible. I'm sure peeps will get excited about it, but it's not possible.