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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:06 AM
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Can you post a source?

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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:08 AM
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Now I am just a bit worried on how Delta feels about this... After all they are still ASA's main contract and 2010 is our 5yr review.
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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:10 AM
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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by USMC3197
Now I am just a bit worried on how Delta feels about this... After all they are still ASA's main contract and 2010 is our 5yr review.
I dont work for ASA obvioulsy but i was just talking to my wife yesterday about how down our country has become about everything and how depressed we are. You guys just got new flying that hopefully will prevent furloughs and maybe lead to something more for you guys. Thats good news isnt it?
Delta likes to think the world revolves around them but it doesnt so maybe being more diverse is a good thing. I wish Pinnacle's eggs werent all in one basket.
Congrats to ASA guys.
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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by USMC3197
Now I am just a bit worried on how Delta feels about this... After all they are still ASA's main contract and 2010 is our 5yr review.
Why would they care? Skywest, Mesa, Pinnacle (through Colgan), and RAH all fly for different carriers while flying for Delta too. RAH has loaned money to Frontier, Midwest, and US Airways.

I think Delta should be more concerned with funding a potential direct competitor with their contracts with RAH.
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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:18 AM
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Can you post a source?
The wording was sent out to our company so until I can find it on the internet I cannot post our COO (Chip’s) correspondence. Sorry, been there done that.

Once again, that's HUGE!

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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyASA
Why would they care? Skywest, Mesa, Pinnacle (through Colgan), and RAH all fly for different carriers while flying for Delta too. RAH has loaned money to Frontier, Midwest, and US Airways.

I think Delta should be more concerned with funding a potential direct competitor with their contracts with RAH.
I agree, Delta doesn't give a crap.

It also dispels that rumor that Delta wants to buy ASA back.
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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:21 AM
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Would it be beneficial for United to split this RFP up 3 or 4 ways? I would think that having 3 or 4 different regionals to deal with would make things way more complicated than they need to be.
They could do that, they could give it back to Mesa too. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
The wording was sent out to our company so until I can find it on the internet I cannot post our COO (Chip’s) correspondence. Sorry, been there done that.

But it is true; SKW Airlines now has last rights to any Large UAL TP award.

Once again, that's HUGE!
They may say SKW Airlines, but that part is irrelevant. It will go to whomever they decide. There's nothing to prevent them from buying the certificate of somebody who operates Q400s already and having them do the flying.

Just like how when SkyWest, Inc. bought ASA and made a big deal about how ASA had the rights to 80% of DCI flying in ATL. Then later we found out after SKW moved in full force that it really applied to Inc., and they could do what they want.
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Old 10-20-2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sweptback
They may say SKW Airlines, but that part is irrelevant. It will go to whomever they decide. There's nothing to prevent them from buying the certificate of somebody who operates Q400s already and having them do the flying.

Just like how when SkyWest, Inc. bought ASA and made a big deal about how ASA had the rights to 80% of DCI flying in ATL. Then later we found out after SKW moved in full force that it really applied to Inc., and they could do what they want.
Yes, there's nothing to stop them (no union), but history has shown our Mgmnt group to be all about SKW Airlines. In every single transaction that SKW Inc has agreed to or negotiated they've always given a kick back to SKW Airlines.

1. ASA purchase secured SKW footing on SLC and future growth.
2. ExpressJet purchase was going to include future ERJ flying for SKW under the CAL banner.
3. ASA's UAL agreement secures 40 of our jets futures and offers us last rights on any TP award.

If we had any other Mgmnt team I would say yes that could happen and although it could it won’t.

Also your comment about SKW in ATL is only partially true. We didn’t come in with full force, we waded in and still to this day haven’t commented our full resources to the amount of flying we have out there. Regardless it was comical (toward Inc.) to see SKW pull the SLC card on ASA just to put us in ATL. Just goes to show you that ASA will survive but only benefit when SKW benefits.

This is just my opinion and I’m pro-pilot (ASA and SKW).

PS. Have you checked to see if ASA only covers the 80% mark in ATL with SKW included? I'm sure we don't factor into your ATL DCI %age mark.
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