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Zapata 11-05-2009 11:11 AM

As for pilots wearing MP3 players in an airport; There is nothing unprofessional about a uniformed pilot listening to one while seated in a gate area or at an airport restaurant. Yes, I do this. However, I won't walk down the concourse in uniform while listening to an MP3 player. I can't explain why I draw this distinction, I just do.

For those of you that think that a pilot listening to an MP3 player in public as unprofessional, do you feel the same way about a pilot walking down the concourse while on their cell phone with a hands-free kit? Some hands-free kits have stereo headphones and visually indistinguishable from MP3 player headphones. How about talking on just the phone? This can go on and on. Do you see how this discussion is almost silly?

LeftWing 11-05-2009 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 706915)
Pilots seem so insecure. I've never heard of another group of like employees who throw the word "professional" around so much when describing themselves. Also, why are so many pilots so embarrassingly bad at grammar and spelling? How can anyone expect a person to take pride in maintaining their professional appearance when they have absolutely no apparent shame in coming across as an uneducated bumpkin? America is done, these are all symptoms of a fatal disease. I see it more and more every day and it makes me heartsick.

For such a grammar guru, this is a poorly constructed sentence.

CTPILOT 11-05-2009 02:13 PM

IDK but I seen pilots at both regional and major both wearing baseball caps a matter a fact saw one capt on a airbus wearing one (aslong as worn in the cockpit only while cockpit door is closed. But ipod is definitly a no ...maybe if your sitting at the gate waiting, backpack aslong as your not wearing but just resting it on top of your rollerboard.

cruiseclimb 11-05-2009 02:14 PM

Never mind.. I had to delete it..

Colnago 11-05-2009 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 706915)
Pilots seem so insecure. I've never heard of another group of like employees who throw the word "professional" around so much when describing themselves. Also, why are so many pilots so embarrassingly bad at grammar and spelling? How can anyone expect a person to take pride in maintaining their professional appearance when they have absolutely no apparent shame in coming across as an uneducated bumpkin? America is done, these are all symptoms of a fatal disease. I see it more and more every day and it makes me heartsick.

Wow, best post on APC yet. I agree completely.

Semaphore Sam 11-05-2009 04:48 PM

I understand the point about English grammar and syntax...but clothes, baseball hats? I lived in an Air Force Bag for 9 years before beginning my airline career...that makes me unprofessional? What total cr*p! Professionalism means flying safe, and, then, on time. It's HOW YOU FLY, not how you wear a silly monkey-suit. Using an iron, instead of reading up on the 10-7 pages the night before? Are you kidding? Image over ability...no wonder things are going downhill. Give me a dishevelled professional, anytime, over a well-presented reprobate. Sam

pokey9554 11-05-2009 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Semaphore Sam (Post 707150)
I understand the point about English grammar and syntax...but clothes, baseball hats? I lived in an Air Force Bag for 9 years before beginning my airline career...that makes me unprofessional? What total cr*p! Professionalism means flying safe, and, then, on time. It's HOW YOU FLY, not how you wear a silly monkey-suit. Using an iron, instead of reading up on the 10-7 pages the night before? Are you kidding? Image over ability...no wonder things are going downhill. Give me a dishevelled professional, anytime, over a well-presented reprobate. Sam

Thank you.

SkiBum112 11-05-2009 06:02 PM

Last I checked you had to have some ability to get the aircraft on the ground safely to get the job in the first place. I, personally, don't care if you wore a tutu for 9 years before you came into the airlines, but once you're here a level of grooming should be of some importance. I wouldn't know you from Adam, so I don't know how you fly, and neither do the pax so they judge you by your appearance. So when you look like crap cause you "just don't feel like it" you make ALL of us look like crap.

ZBowFlyz 11-05-2009 06:23 PM

Isn't there a "code of conduct" you guys have to follow?

I'm Corp. and I my version of casual is pressed slacks, startched shirt, shined shoes, and no tie. ...and thats casual. No backpacks, IPODs, or any other nonsense. And we don't have a dress code, we just do it because I don't like the idea of a passenger out dressing the most important guy on the plane. Believe me, the passengers notice.

PS I LMAO and agree with the hair cut thing

jeeps 11-06-2009 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by LeftWing (Post 707021)
For such a grammar guru, this is a poorly constructed sentence.


Grammar police...pull it over.

You're right, a semi-colon instead of a comma would have been a better choice.:p


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