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plasticpi 12-07-2009 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 722173)
It is true I thought that an airline career was going to be the rock to build a full life upon. I expected it to possibly even improve access to family life.

Apparently it is supposed to be your entire life. People need to know that. We are all here to learn something.

The pilot lifestyle: A disconnected, disenfranchised, lonesome, occasionally impoverished, and often expatriate, never ending life on the road.

Skyhigh

Better than a disconnected, disenfranchised, lonesome, occasionally impoverished, often expatriate, never ending life behind a desk.

bryris 12-07-2009 06:53 AM

I get so tired of the "behind the desk" statement that people use. Your job is only exciting if it challenges you, pushes you up against obstacles and presents problems that need to be solved on a routine basis. The presence of a desk or not has little to do with it.

I could paint gauges all over a desk and come awfully close to the environment of a pilot (still sitting in a seat staring at CRTs) - yet still get to enjoy career progression, professional mobility, and ability to branch out and run my own business.

plasticpi 12-07-2009 07:21 AM

I, um, was speaking figuratively. I have nothing against any specific piece of furniture. Some of my best friends are desks.

SkyHigh 12-07-2009 07:34 AM

New Perspective
 
APC has taught me to appreciate that there are people out there who enjoy living an impoverished life of disconnected lonesome living on the road. :)

I never wanted that for myself. My goal was to have a career that offered me better wages, benefits, home life and a flexible schedule to be able to build a healthy family life upon. I hoped that my career would provide enough income to build a nice financial portfolio so that I could afford to fully provide for the needs of my family.

A lucky few are able to accpmolish that however the odds are long and the reality is that most will not end up living where they wanted or earning what they need. If you are a confirmed bachelor who does not care where they live then as a pilot you may have found your paradise.

Skyhigh

de727ups 12-07-2009 11:09 AM

"A lucky few are able to accpmolish that however the odds are long and the reality is that most will not end up living where they wanted or earning what they need. If you are a confirmed bachelor who does not care where they live then as a pilot you may have found your paradise."

I wouldn't take Skyhigh seriously....

"A lot of what I write here is intended as humor and most do not get it."

Skyhigh 4/08/09

jsled 12-07-2009 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by bryris (Post 722334)
I get so tired of the "behind the desk" statement that people use. Your job is only exciting if it challenges you, pushes you up against obstacles and presents problems that need to be solved on a routine basis. The presence of a desk or not has little to do with it.

I could paint gauges all over a desk and come awfully close to the environment of a pilot (still sitting in a seat staring at CRTs) - yet still get to enjoy career progression, professional mobility, and ability to branch out and run my own business.

ok. But could you surf Waikiki, eat chowder at the Purple Shamrock in Boston, and ride a p.o.s. rental bike through Venice Beach all in the same 4 day work period? Or how about drive to work once per week instead of dealing with that traffic M-F? I have to say this job is pretty sweet. Sometimes hard to deal with from the perspective of what it used to be, but still pretty sweet. ;)

USMCFLYR 12-07-2009 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by bryris (Post 722334)
I get so tired of the "behind the desk" statement that people use. Your job is only exciting if it challenges you, pushes you up against obstacles and presents problems that need to be solved on a routine basis. The presence of a desk or not has little to do with it.

I could paint gauges all over a desk and come awfully close to the environment of a pilot (still sitting in a seat staring at CRTs) - yet still get to enjoy career progression, professional mobility, and ability to branch out and run my own business.

Probably as tired as people get about hearing how worthless anybody is that wants to stay in the aviation business. Some people don't want a desk job. Never have - and it seems so far - never will.
MOST people on here on say t hat THEY don't want a job either, but they stop short of branding anyone who does want a desk job as worthless.
How many posters on here have attacked YOU PERSONALLY Bryris for stepping away from aviation? Most that I have seen have said - "Good luck, hope the situation is working out for you, enjoy yourself"
Other posters have called people who have decided to stay in the game all kind of uncalled for names and made claims that they aren't taking care of their families.

As to your last sentence....so no one in the aviation business can enjoy those things? You aren't saying only aviation in the P121 world - you are lumping ALL of aviation under your blanket statement.

You're tired????
Join the club.

USMCFLYR

NWA320pilot 12-07-2009 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 722355)
APC has taught me to appreciate that there are people out there who enjoy living an impoverished life of disconnected lonesome living on the road. :)

I never wanted that for myself. My goal was to have a career that offered me better wages, benefits, home life and a flexible schedule to be able to build a healthy family life upon. I hoped that my career would provide enough income to build a nice financial portfolio so that I could afford to fully provide for the needs of my family.

A lucky few are able to accpmolish that however the odds are long and the reality is that most will not end up living where they wanted or earning what they need. If you are a confirmed bachelor who does not care where they live then as a pilot you may have found your paradise.

Skyhigh

I am happily married to a wonderful woman and have 3 great kids! I work with lots of guys whose lives come first and the career second. Life is what you make of it not what one gets or doesn't......

Superpilot92 12-07-2009 04:59 PM

Skyhigh, you're like a broken record. You come on here and trash the industry and anyone who's decided to stick it out, all for what? Take a look in the mirror when you say things like,


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 722173)
Apparently it is supposed to be your entire life. People need to know that. We are all here to learn something.

The pilot lifestyle: A disconnected, disenfranchised, lonesome, occasionally impoverished, and often expatriate, never ending life on the road.

Skyhigh

Apparently this career has consumed you because you still come on here and try to justify yourself. Maybe it makes you feel better to come on here everyday and trash airline Pilots as a whole but if it sucks so bad then why do you consume yourself on here badmouthing it? In fact this makes you look like the one whom is "disconnected, disenfranchised, lonesome, occasionally impoverished, and often expatriate". Move on and spare us of your depression filled posts. :cool:


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 722177)
Another overgeneralized, exaggerated, and negative to the extreme OPINION.

I've suggested to you over and over that you would reach more people with your *message* if you weren't so obviously extreme in your views.
You state that your purpose is to educated - but you do more harm than good with your approach.

Just tell the truth and admit like you like the attention you get when people argue with you.

People - if some of you believe a statement like this then I highly encourage you to leave this industry or seek professional help.

USMCFLYR


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 722225)
I don't think your describing a pilot's lifestyle, I think you may just be describing your outlook on your life. I could be wrong though, however I have always been a believer that the person who is truly happy and content with his or her life doesn't constantly tell the world about it. On the other hand, the person who is constantly trying to tell other people how to live their lives, while constantly reaffirming the decisions they've made, are the one's who are truly unhappy and miserable.


DEAD ON!!

dojetdriver 12-07-2009 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 722514)
eat chowder at the Purple Shamrock in Boston

That is cool bar, as is The Green Dragon and Black Rose. Not sure if there's the pool place in that local anymore, but when I was there it was called The Rack.

Seemed to describe the attributes of many of the patrons as well as a pool table establishment.


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