9L vs C5
 

Does anyone have any factual (ha ha) information about the reason for the CO SAAB contract NOT being renewed with Colgan and whether or not CommutAir is planning to take over the flying in April?

I have not heard anything nor has anything been confirmed that Colgan will not get the flying.

In fact the last I was told is that Colgan will keep the flying with the understanding that Colgan will replace the Saabs in 5 years with another 34-40 seat airframe.

The CO Saab ops actually runs really good, averaging 99+ CC factor the last 6+ months. Plus, what is the logic in replacing one cheap nasty TP with another cheap and nasty TP

The problem is that rumors spread like wildfire and the next thing you know, everyone is fearing for their jobs before Christmas.

who is 9L and who is C5?

Coke and Pepsi

haha thanks.

That rumor is no better then the rumor Colgan was taking over Gulfstream's Flying in Florida. Don't hold your breath!

If you actually read his post, it's pretty obvious that 9L is Colgan and C5 is Commutair.

3 posts until someone writes a 4 minute post berating those who use airline codes and wasting his time, when he could have looked them up in 20 seconds.....

Or the OP could have taken an extra 10 seconds and type the actual name of the companies.

Lol. He did post their names in the original post. You did read the original post right? :)

It's like when H7 took over S39's flying.

The was nothing compared to Z2 taking over W3's flying

In my best Kanye voice.....

Yeah those to takeovers were pretty good, but Y8's stealing of G6's flying was the best takeover OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I heard they were merging H1 and N1. I think that will be a big mistake.

Exactly! When will they learn, all they have to do is look at past mergers like R2 merging with D2 and of course C3 buying out PO

(Thats for you StarWars dorks)

Why would CommutAir want pro-rate flying? Colgan barely breaks even on the IAH SAAB flying.

I think CommutAir will stick to their Fee For Departure flying. No sense in voluntarily losing money in IAH.

I wonder if computer nerds use code to communicate on their message boards

Hahaha, i looked up "H7" and its and airline called Eagle Air from Uganda.

THERE ARE ONLY 11 TYPES OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD. Those that think binary jokes are funny, those that don't, and those that don't know binary.

Okay, I'll bite. What is the other 34-40 seat airframe?

That is why they have 5 years...

My .02 is the SAAB will go the way of the doto bird and will never be replaced. I bet in 5-10 years we will be an all Q400 fleet. EAS stuff that the Q400 is too much airplane for, they will dump. (just my prediction)

There are people who have been watching the Q's performance and magic money making capabilities. There is alot of interest. All I'm going to say is, there are going to be alot of Canadians buying new cars and homes in the next few years.

For all those who are about to chime in with "wah wah, pay" or "wah wah, bottom feeders", the pay scale will be taken care of! Soon.

Aviation nerds do at airliners.net

Using airline codes to communicate is a little tacky, spend an extra second and say the actual name.

Guys we have learned probably 20,000 aviation acronyms/abbreviations since we started flying. Everything from systems to weather reports to LEO's. Is reading/learning 10 more airline codes a year on a gossip board in your free time really going to kill you? Why don't we tell the FAA to do away with weather codes and have everything as it is for Grandma on the local news at 6 pm while we're at it?

all this discusion even when the OP says in plain english who the 2 airlines are if you actually read his post....

thank you for bringing some sense to the matter

Word on the street is that Bombardier is firing up the -200/-300 product line at the behest of an unknown party. You connect the dots.

Saabs may be Dodo birds (Dodo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), but 30ish pax turboprops are not. Some routes support 6 pax (enter Cape Air), some support 30 (Brasillia, Saab, Jetstream), and some support 70 (Q400).

Unless you are saying Colgan will just abandon the 30 pax market... possible, but if there is a replacement aircraft, hard to believe.

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We will see. Right now, there is no replacement being built. I wonder if SAAB would tool back up if someone kicked up an order large enough. Not enough demand right now! Anything can happen in 5-10 years from now.

I would love to see a new and improved SAAB, crisp on the controls, fast, able to leap tall mountains on a single engine...with a nice cup holder too.

As heard in recurrent from a reliable source first hand (you know how that goes) ATR-42s off the assembly line.

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Saab can't even build a decent car these days and has LOOONG since given up building airplanes. Don't count on either to change. The only players in the 30-40 seat TP market are used Dash 8's (I suppose with a big enough order they'd start making new ones again) and the ATR 42.

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(a link for the digitally impaired:http://home2.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/)

I was looking that the ATR site

First Generation Aircraft - Products - ATR

Notice anything wrong?

Yeah, their HQ is in France.

it will be a colgan q400 with 40 seats MEL'D.

well you colganites should be happy after listening to the pncl corp webcast - all they talk about is growing your side of the operation. No mention at all to growing the 900 fleet because i think they finally realized they can't place them anywhere because they are morons. I wouldnt be suprised if we sold the 900's we have to someone else to grow you guys more! Congrats!

If you look at the title, they can't spell first

Saab aviation and cars share nothing but a symbol. The two divisions were separated many years ago. Saab autocars is owned and operated by GM who are trying to sell the brand off.

Actually they both share something else in common, GM just announced that, like the Saturn deal, the deal to sell off Saab fell through and will simply be shut down entirely. There won't be anymore planes or cars built with the Saab name.

They could sell off the the rights to build the 340....

then one day we could fly the Embraer Saab-Fairchild - 340

and if Embraer and Bonbardier merge... the BESF(pronounced Bess' eff) 340