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Originally Posted by Lowlevel (Post 742752)

Notice I did say that ALL airlines need to raise prices. Usually you will see an airline cut fares, and the others follow. They all need to agree to raise prices in unison, or as said, re-regulate the industry.

I like your point and wish the same thing would happen.....but they CAN'T legally (agree to raise prices) do that due to the Railway Labor Act if I'm not mistaken. :(

How about the government give the airlines a 1 year break on all tax surcharges that the government adds. How many billions of dollars would that add to the companies? The government sure as hell hasn't taken any of the past taxes paid by airlines and put them to use improving the ATC infrastructure.

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 742789)

You do realize that all that money would go directly to executive bonuses. Just look at what all the banks did with their taxpayer "gift".

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Originally Posted by stoki (Post 742581)

Which brings us to the next point. There are too may airlines, too much competition between them for a piece of the pie, and there are always a few that help keep the fares low by undercutting the competition and in turn making everyone else do the same, or lose.

Which brings us to yet the next point. Reregulation. :D

When pilots are handcuffed by the government, as to being able to strike, I think we would all be better off if we could go back to regulation. At least we would be paid better. Now, if the gov would get out of our way we could get better rates because we could at least scare the crap out of Mgmt. with a strike threat the week before Christmas or Thanksgiving. ;)

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Originally Posted by hindsight2020 (Post 742715)

I wish you well on your personal outcome, but the industry is NOT known for stable employment, competitive pay and "amicable" work rules, so your assertion is disingenuous. Ergo, people who willfully enter the working conditions as known to the median pilot are doing so for the non-economic valuation of getting paid in sunrises and sunsets. In that regard, it IS a hobby job.

A. I'm well aware of this industry's remarkable instability, hence my saying "knock on wood". B. Your flawed if/then logic lacks information. When I entered the industry, well prior to the mid/late nineties "golden era", there was a reasonable expectation of career viability vs costs to enter. I consider myself as having a median pilot job, at least not too far from it. (no, I don't work for Brown or Purple) So no, there is nothing disingenuous about my assertion. I agree with you insofar as pilots that aren't concerned with wages, this is a hobby. However, with most of us working pilots, this IS a profession and NOT a hobby, no matter how many sunrises/sunsets are enjoyed.

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Originally Posted by dunlaf05 (Post 742787)

I like your point and wish the same thing would happen.....but they CAN'T legally (agree to raise prices) do that due to the Railway Labor Act if I'm not mistaken. :(

Actually, there are Antitrust laws against colluding to fix prices.

Price fixing is an agreement between participants on the same side in a market to buy or sell the same product or service, or commodity only at a fixed price or maintain the market conditions such that the price is maintained at a given level by controlling supply and demand.

In the United States, price fixing can be prosecuted as a criminal federal offense under section 1 of the Sherman Antitrust Act.