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02-05-2010 | 09:02 PM

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jsled

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Originally Posted by DeadStick

UAX @ IAD:
-Colgan
-Mesa
-Chautauqua
-XJet
-Shuttle America
-TSA
-GoJet
-ASA (soon)

Chautaugua and Mesa are history.

02-05-2010 | 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mach X

I do not have numbers to back this up, but I have a feeling the saabs do not make quite as much money as some seem to think. Combine that with expiring leases and the "image/passenger experience" factor, and it is not surprising the saabs are headed back across the pond.

The saabs never made a lot of money. But they did make money. It was the old NWA mentality. They did not care as long as it made money. All of the EAS routes were not cash crops, but they were not losing money. Delta is all about higher margins and I'm sure saab did not want to lease them again for bankruptcy rates.

02-06-2010 | 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jsled

Chautaugua and Mesa are history.

Mesa still has 20 CRJ-700s that feed for UAL. UAL is just ending the Dash 8 and 200 portion of the contract.

02-06-2010 | 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ComairFO

Dear PinnacleFO,

Thank you for submitting your thoughts on the diversification of the DCI network, coming to an airport near you. Unfortunately, I could care less about your crappy 4 day trips worth 15 hours and 4 hour airport sits (hehehehe!). All I care about is dollars and cents. The more of that I save, the more I can put in my pocket, thanks to all of the performance bonuses I currently enjoy as CEO of Delta. Does your company offer fat bonuses? Ha! Didn't think so. Keep up the good work and enjoy the Biscoff cookies.

Sincerely,

Richard Anderson

Hah Ha Ha, This is right on the money. I would not be surprised at all if this is exactly what RA and his executives thinks and says privately amongst themselves. RA did get a $8 million dollar bonus for "successfully" merging NWA with DAL. Just a chump change for him and others like him say like Doug Steenland who got a $24 million dollar bonus after NWA came out of the bankruptcy.

02-06-2010 | 05:44 AM

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jsled

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Mesa still has 20 CRJ-700s that feed for UAL. UAL is just ending the Dash 8 and 200 portion of the contract.

Thanks. Did not know that. The lawsuit that UAL filed against Mesa is for future 70 seaters? IOW, does not affect the current 20 700's?

02-06-2010 | 05:49 AM

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Thanks. Did not know that. The lawsuit that UAL filed against Mesa is for future 70 seaters? IOW, does not affect the current 20 700's?

I think they will be affected. Unfortuntely, instead of going back to mainline UAL flying, they are probaby going to ASA out of IAD.

02-06-2010 | 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed

I think they will be affected. Unfortuntely, instead of going back to mainline UAL flying, they are probaby going to ASA out of IAD.

Nope. Lawsuit only pertains to the additional 10 CR7's. CR7's already in service; are not included and will operate till contract expires, is canceled, or Mesa folds.

02-06-2010 | 07:18 AM

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Saabs should have been retired a long time ago? How do you figure. Last I checked they were and are still making money, most are probably younger than many CRJ 200 fleets out there.

FAA registry has the youngest Saab being built in 1998. ASA's oldest 6 -200s were built in '97 with the newest built in '03. Saab quit making them in 1998-99. There is still an occasional -200 that rolls off the assembly line.

02-06-2010 | 07:24 AM

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There is still an occasional -200 that rolls off the assembly line.

They're called Challenger 850s.

02-06-2010 | 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by indapit

The saabs never made a lot of money. But they did make money. It was the old NWA mentality. They did not care as long as it made money. All of the EAS routes were not cash crops, but they were not losing money. Delta is all about higher margins and I'm sure saab did not want to lease them again for bankruptcy rates.

We will see if you're right in a couple years when all the -200 contracts come up for negotiation.