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Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 765046)

What hiring airlines has 50 multi as a requirement? This is no longer the case today This guy is totally out of luck untill he gets some more multi time.

Um, Ameriflight hires at 50. A friend of mine just got hired on with 52hrs multi.

Also Great Lakes, but thats another thread entirely. :D

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Originally Posted by Bons (Post 764901)

Assuming regionals start hiring again what are the odds of getting hired with around 1000TT 65Multi? The flight school I work at got rid of the twin cause of high insurance cost and lack of multi-students:( I realize its all about supply and demand for pilots. Is 100 multi the minimum magic number? Crap! I probably gotta sweet talk my way into a school far-far away that still has a twin on-line.

-Bons

The biggest thing is that there is no magic amount of multi right now. I have close to 2000 hours of multi, and I can't go anywhere. Just hang tight and keep networking.

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Originally Posted by Bons (Post 764901)

Nobody is hiring anyways and by the time people hire again you will have triple what you have now assuming you're still flying. I wouldn't worry about it. They like multi currency so right before you put your stuff in go and get a block of multi time.

I'm not trying to start anything with NightIP or anyone else with higher multi time. When the hiring starts, I think that a lot of the people with a large number of multi time will not want to take the regional jobs or other similar jobs, like myself and others with lower times will. I work with other CFIs that have well over 400 and a few with more than 600. When I question them about getting out, they only answer me by saying they don’t want to sit reverse for some regional airline. It seems that they want to be called up by chance or looking for a non-airline job. We operate out of a good field, but 135 and 91 ops are not abundant, even before the downfall of the economy. I’m curious of how many pilots that have this mutli time will not go for the jobs others will. I don’t what to start something about Gojet or anything else, but it brings up the point that even if some people have a lot of time, they might not be a factor. I am open to opinions on this, but then again, that's all we have for this thread unless someone can see the future.

Wild Smurf

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Originally Posted by cleared2land (Post 764914)

Gotta be somebody around you can pimp yourself out to for some free multi time. Get creative. When I was building time I would fly 1.5 hours one way with a guy and then take a Grey Hound bus home. $25 for 1.5 hours of C-310R Turbo twin time. Free time I had...money I didn't. I once found a company that had a twin and talked them into letting me sit right seat as a "safety pilot." I didn't get paid, but it was a King Air. I got a little training in it and the pilot let me fly after that...I guess I got paid about $600 per hour. Again, time I had... I just had to forget that I paid for the ratings I had, but now I wasn't getting paid. But, I wasn't sitting at home either. You can only do "free" for so long, but that 15-20 hours got my foot in the door in other areas.

I heard something interesting from an Eagle recruiter. This was a couple years ago during the big 2007 hiring boom. Back when eagle was hiring with around 350/50. The recruiter warned about "safety pilot" time. They look through logbooks and pay particular attention to multi time. She said if they see a lot of safety pilot time or "100 hamburger time" they generally will only count about 20 hours of it at most. Maybe 30. What they really want to see is MEI time since she said "it shows you are constantly thinking about multi-engine stuff." (and I quote).

She also warned dont get your MEI and fly with a buddy - him logging PIC time and you as the MEI logging PIC time too. They look at how many sign offs (and passes) you do with your MEI. If you have 100 hours MEI time, but none (or only 1) sign offs, they will get suspicious.

I forgot the term, but I think its something like "quality of time" that they will look at and it seems they pay particular attention to with multi time. Not sure how true this is, but this one recruiter seemed to say it was pretty true so I'd tend to believe her.

I got hired 2 years ago with 14 hours of multi. Just need to be at the right place at the right time.

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Originally Posted by av8sean (Post 765164)

I got hired 2 years ago with 14 hours of multi. Just need to be at the right place at the right time.

that was also 2 years ago

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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 764952)

I don't think you're totally out of luck. I remember a few of the regionals in the past had 50 hours multi as their minimum, and to be honest, I don't see much change in those requirements. Some of the better regionals will still probably have 100 hours as their requirement.

I would not bet on this...

When hiring resumed after the last downturn, there was an endless supply of ASEL pilots with 1500-2000+ hours. The airlines thinned out the applicants by focusing on ME time...you needed at least 350-500 to even be considered. In the past the high-ME time 91 and 135 folks got first crack at the jobs, and 2-3 years later did they start looking at 100 hour ME pilots as the norm.

To make matters worse, the post-colgan bills in congress require (inadddition to an ATP) that airlines place emphasis on ME experience when hiring. No set amount is specified but I'm sure the airlines would be very way of anyone with less than 200 or so.

Bottom line...in this day-and-age plenty of ME time will be required. The airlines will have no trouble finding it initially, so if you already have 1000 TT, multi time should be your number one priority. As far as airlines are concerned, you will be going nowhere without it.

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Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 765064)

Im sure the OP with 65 multi will rest well knowing in 2 years there may be a chance he can interview with a regional.

Yeah, pretty comforting right? =)

Rickair.. good point. I wasn't looking for jobs back in the beginning of the last hiring wave because I wasn't qualified for regionals back then, but what ya said makes sense. Even when I did get hired though, 100 multi was the minimum, and it was difficult for me to get it. So I take back what I said... go build some multi time!

As mentioned above, AMF hires with low multi-time!

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Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 765144)

I see what you are saying and whole heartedly agree. But you can see I used "safety pilot" as a foot in the door. Then I got a little training from him and he let me do some of the flying after that. It definately wasn't MEI time I was signing off. They are welcome to scrutinize my logbook and question the owners all they want. It will all hold up.