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Bons 02-16-2010 10:02 PM

Hiring w/low multi hrs
 
Assuming regionals start hiring again what are the odds of getting hired with around 1000TT 65Multi? The flight school I work at got rid of the twin cause of high insurance cost and lack of multi-students:( I realize its all about supply and demand for pilots. Is 100 multi the minimum magic number? Crap! I probably gotta sweet talk my way into a school far-far away that still has a twin on-line.

-Bons

piper338 02-16-2010 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Bons (Post 764901)
Assuming regionals start hiring again what are the odds of getting hired with around 1000TT 65Multi? The flight school I work at got rid of the twin cause of high insurance cost and lack of multi-students:( I realize its all about supply and demand for pilots. Is 100 multi the minimum magic number? Crap! I probably gotta sweet talk my way into a school far-far away that still has a twin on-line.

-Bons

Maybe get your 1200TT and get a 135 gig somewhere, maybe flying a caravan or something. Regional airlines suck! Unless you're looking for an unpaid vacation like me.

Beer Count: 1 "you start over at 12 right?"

HercDriver130 02-16-2010 10:57 PM

65 multi probably wont get you squat WHEN there is some movement.....

cleared2land 02-16-2010 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Bons (Post 764901)
Assuming regionals start hiring again what are the odds of getting hired with around 1000TT 65Multi? The flight school I work at got rid of the twin cause of high insurance cost and lack of multi-students:( I realize its all about supply and demand for pilots. Is 100 multi the minimum magic number? Crap! I probably gotta sweet talk my way into a school far-far away that still has a twin on-line.

-Bons

Have you ever worked 121 before? If not the problem you are going to run into is all the furloughed or previously "almost hired" 121 pilots out there or all the 135 guys just waiting building time. Oh, and don't forget you will now need your ATP to get on with a regional. A four year degree may be a "desired" trait as well until they pump the well down a bit.

I would guess that by summer of 2012 things will be in full swing again. The age 65 debacle will be completely played out by Dec 2012. I have heard that people are already giving up and retiring either because of medical issues or they are just tired and want to play with grandkids without having to worry about that international trip that takes them away for a couple weeks.

The military isn't cranking out tons of pilots like they used to. Besides, alot of what they are making now fly UAVs and I don't know how legacy carriers are going to look at that if at all. That would be good for regional guys since it will open up more mainline jobs for them/us.

Of course all this will depend on if the mainline carriers don't just simply let the age 65 rule take them down to where they want to be anyway. UPS furloughing and FedEx trying not to furlough isn't good.

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Gotta be somebody around you can pimp yourself out to for some free multi time. Get creative. When I was building time I would fly 1.5 hours one way with a guy and then take a Grey Hound bus home. $25 for 1.5 hours of C-310R Turbo twin time. Free time I had...money I didn't. I once found a company that had a twin and talked them into letting me sit right seat as a "safety pilot." I didn't get paid, but it was a King Air. I got a little training in it and the pilot let me fly after that...I guess I got paid about $600 per hour. Again, time I had... I just had to forget that I paid for the ratings I had, but now I wasn't getting paid. But, I wasn't sitting at home either. You can only do "free" for so long, but that 15-20 hours got my foot in the door in other areas.

ImperialxRat 02-17-2010 04:39 AM

I don't think you're totally out of luck. I remember a few of the regionals in the past had 50 hours multi as their minimum, and to be honest, I don't see much change in those requirements. Some of the better regionals will still probably have 100 hours as their requirement.

Now, if I were you I probably wouldn't sit idle and count on 65 hours being sufficient... keep looking for that MEI job, or like posted above... look for a 135 gig.

I wouldn't discount regionals.. after being at both a regional, and now a 135 gig.. i have to say that I preferred the regional. 135 single pilot is great and invaluable experience, and I think it would be a good step to go to after flight instructing. In my current situation though I will be making more at my regional, with more days off, and control over my schedule and where I live. But to each his own... if I stay at the 135 gig I can upgrade and get TPIC faster...

So I guess what I am trying to say is choose what works best for you, but keep looking for multi time.. don't sit there with 65 hours, then be frantic in 2 years to try and become competitive.

I would also make sure you have ATP minimums. I wouldn't necessarily worry about getting the rating though. I am sure whatever company you go to would give you the ATP.

The Juice 02-17-2010 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 764952)
I don't think you're totally out of luck. I remember a few of the regionals in the past had 50 hours multi as their minimum, and to be honest, I don't see much change in those requirements. Some of the better regionals will still probably have 100 hours as their requirement.

What hiring airlines has 50 multi as a requirement? This is no longer the case today This guy is totally out of luck untill he gets some more multi time.

ImperialxRat 02-17-2010 08:04 AM

It's not the case today because barely anyone is hiring. Give it two years, and I think it will drop back down to that level.

Who knows... this is all speculation from my side.

tlove482 02-17-2010 08:12 AM

Starting to look like 500 multi is the new minimum.

newarkblows 02-17-2010 08:12 AM

no way. Even when the minimums were 600/100 every regional made that 100 a hard minimum. The public is quick to forget but i think the media is starting to turn on these airlines since the Colgan crash. As a cfi i think your chances of getting hired within the first year of movement are very slim. There are too many furloughed regional guys. There is a huge backlog of people with well over 1000/250 because they have no where to go.

The Juice 02-17-2010 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 765055)
It's not the case today because barely anyone is hiring. Give it two years, and I think it will drop back down to that level.

Who knows... this is all speculation from my side.

Im sure the OP with 65 multi will rest well knowing in 2 years there may be a chance he can interview with a regional.


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