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Jake Wheeler 02-21-2010 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 766823)
I would bet this grievance is settled after the expiration date of the CHQ contract

Maybe Eagle is just giving you a taste of the future. Just like breaking in a virgin, you don't want to shove it all in at once.

Republic is growing out of its regional roots while Eagle remains a feeder airline. Soon Republic may be codesharing with American on many domestic routes supplying both midsize airliners and their own feed.

Jake Wheeler 02-21-2010 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 766869)
You could consider this good news -

Eagle flying going to Republic... that's kinda like mainline recapturing small jet flying from a regional. Just without the mainline pay.

Republic bought several airlines. If the price is right, they could easily buy Eagle too. Isn't it still up for sale?

Since the two airlines have different unions and since the Eagle pilots have shown so much pettiness about Chicago in their treatment of Chautauqua pilots, any merger will be by staple. Since the Eagle pilots have shown their true colors in how they treated the Chautauqua pilots and their own senior pilots, it would serve them right too.

PSACFI 02-21-2010 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler (Post 767168)
Maybe Eagle is just giving you a taste of the future. Just like breaking in a virgin, you don't want to shove it all in at once.

Republic is growing out of its regional roots while Eagle remains a feeder airline. Soon Republic may be codesharing with American on many domestic routes supplying both midsize airliners and their own feed.

I don't want to see that happen. I'd rather see mainline AA flying their own routes instead of outsourcing them via codeshare to RAH. Code sharing is management's next major push to get around scope.

stiknruder 02-21-2010 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler (Post 767170)
Republic bought several airlines. If the price is right, they could easily buy Eagle too. Isn't it still up for sale?

Since the two airlines have different unions and since the Eagle pilots have shown so much pettiness about Chicago in their treatment of Chautauqua pilots, any merger will be by staple. Since the Eagle pilots have shown their true colors in how they treated the Chautauqua pilots and their own senior pilots, it would serve them right too.

Wheeler, you must be as your avitar shows! Just a monkey in a suit! Most of us Eagle pilots understand that the Chautauqua pilots themselves are not to blame and as for the senior pilots, they wanted to flow when things were going good, so why shouldn't they have to go now when things aren't so good! They are gonna get what they wanted, only a couple years later than when it should have happened! What about the 2000 plus junior guys that have suffered pay, upgrade, and qol becuase they(the flowthroughs) didn't go in 2007?

Romulus 02-21-2010 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by stiknruder (Post 767278)
They are gonna get what they wanted, only a couple years later than when it should have happened! What about the 2000 plus junior guys that have suffered pay, upgrade, and qol becuase they(the flowthroughs) didn't go in 2007?

You just proved you are no better than he is. The industry has been taken over by the Me Generation.

Beagle Pilot 02-22-2010 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 766739)
You mean American Airlines outsourcing....

Actually, this is true. Several years ago Eagle ALPA grieved the contracting of both TSA and CHQ as AA feeders since it violated our scope clause. The ruling was no violation took place since ALPA's scope clause was between the Eagle pilots and American Eagle Airlines whereas the TSA and CHQ contracts were between them and AA.

mwa1 02-22-2010 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Beagle Pilot (Post 767717)
Actually, this is true. Several years ago Eagle ALPA grieved the contracting of both TSA and CHQ as AA feeders since it violated our scope clause. The ruling was no violation took place since ALPA's scope clause was between the Eagle pilots and American Eagle Airlines whereas the TSA and CHQ contracts were between them and AA.

hate to disagree because I likely will not get the last word - but arb ruled that this was EXISTING flying and therefore not a violation of scope. He did say ANY new flying belonged to ae. therefore, a new grievance was filed as it does fit this category of new flying.

Beagle Pilot 02-22-2010 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by mwa1 (Post 767963)
hate to disagree because I likely will not get the last word - but arb ruled that this was EXISTING flying and therefore not a violation of scope. He did say ANY new flying belonged to ae. therefore, a new grievance was filed as it does fit this category of new flying.

I hope you are correct and I hope we win. http://forums.artofwarcentral.com/im.../gfdgdey20.gif

mwa1 02-23-2010 05:46 AM

told ya I wouldn't get the last word.

Nevets 02-23-2010 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 766869)
You could consider this good news -

Eagle flying going to Republic... that's kinda like mainline recapturing small jet flying from a regional. Just without the mainline pay.

Actually, mainline recapturing small jet flying from a regional without mainline pay would be considered good news, in my opinion.


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